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Originally Posted by the french guy (Post 129707)

Personaly, I think a jerk will stay a jerk no matter you'll do :D

No matter the hobby or sport, if I have to deal with this type of person, 1st problem : I stay calm, 2nd problem, I quit, simply as that, and never play with the guy again.

As it has been said, life is too short and precious to deal with that.

The thing I notice reading your topics and posts, is that the game is very competition oriented in your country. I rarely see (except for solitaire play) game reports of friendly games.

We come back to the definition of the hobby structure : "league" against "club", if you see what I mean.

In my opinion, any MF organization should have friendly games regularly during the season. Playing with friends, instead of playing against opponents. Fees only for the gaming structure needs. Refunds at the end of the season if the money has not been spent. That kind of things.

Once you put money on something, a lot of guys will think they deserve something, since they paid, and don't remember that playing MF with other passionate people is a chance. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, it's so hard to find people involved in my aera.

In one word, hard rules and frontiers in competition playing, freedom and friendship in fridenly gaming, and no money (or the less possible) an no business in every case.

My 2 cents ;)

It's true that compared to say, Subbuteo, you don't see a lot of friendlies (or "scrimmages" as we call them) in electric football. Part of it I think is the length of the game. If you are going to invest 2 hours in a real game, may as well count it for something.

But at tournaments and during league play, when a couple coaches aren't scheduled to be on the board, you will usually see them running plays against each other in scrimmages, sometimes as a means to test and tweak bases as they go along. These can be valuable sessions as long as they are seen for what their intended purposes is and not something greater.

I know for the next league(s) I play in, I'm going to want to play some preseason scrimmages just to get the feel of the rules, get to know the coaches (if I haven't played with them before), etc.

But you're right, it's a valuable tool that I think sometimes we don't take enough advantage of.

Ed wnnrcgr shkthbx: $br#

When I look at this post I think of first Will Shropshire, Frank Johnson, then Tom from Minneapolis who played in the Great Lakes and honored their commitment.

I think of some of the times when I was a total ---hole and I can think of times when others were worse but it was okay because I was the one with the "history".

I'd like to say I changed but actually I conformed. But people sometimes refuse to see how far you have come because the dye has been cast.

I guess what I am saying is if a person is trying to do better, in my case the electric slide, then acknowledge it instead of battering them with the past. If they don't try to do better then put the foot to em.

As far as not showing, showing up late, etc. we all have been on both ends of the stick. Follow your established policies and procedures. Sure, the whining will come but if you turn a deaf ear then they will have the choice of conforming or not. That way, you can surely say, without a doubt, that this person made the choice to not conform making it their own decision to discontinue.

I believe that no one should be denied the right to play, and your rules, procedures, with circumstances/consequences should reflect that in such a way that this question won't be necessary.

Just my thoughts.

absolutelly no way

i believe that most coach's that play miniature football are very good people,theres always some that rub some the wrong way,nobodies perfect ,but if you love mf and your league like i do ,shallow minded individuals would be better off playing solitaire. just my two cents.