ATTN ALL TTQB Passers
 

9 coaches
 

With 9 coaches on this boaed at this time, some I know are TTQB passers, why hasn't anyone yet to respond ?

I can remember a little about the Tudor and Miggle rule book and I don't remember seeing that information on the passing game, meaning that you can move around the board to pass. I might be wrong, so I want to know.

Some coaches do things because it's popular, but it is not in the rules. This is done over a long period of time with no one questioning it and it somehow was over looked. Every one liked it, but no one checked to see if it was a rule or not? Or are guys making things up as they go along?
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TTQB Passing
 

This is from the FULL GAME RULES listed on the Miggle site:

"12. The pass is attempted with the triple threat quarterback. When attempting the pass, the quarterback may be tilted as long as some part of its base remains in contact with the board inside the footprint of where the base was at when the switch was turned off. The offense has only one attempt in which to complete the pass. If the pass is complete (see definition of completion), proceed to Step 11. The offense may elect to take an automatic incompletion ("throw it away") provided that at least one receiver is open to receive a pass. If the offense misses the pass or opts to "throw it away," then skip to Step 12. If the offense throws an interception (see definition of interception), then the defensive player becomes the ball carrier. If the defensive player is engaged, then the ball is down at that point. If the defensive player is not engaged, then it may be angled and adjusted. Play continues in Step 11, but with the defender as the ball carrier and with the offense becoming "the defense."

I haven't gone through the rest of the details in the book, but I don't think it explicitly states anywhere, the "position" of the coach during the passing procedure. Since that appears to be "undefined" by the rules, I guess it is generally understood that the coach can attempt the pass from whatever angle is best, as long as his TTQB is positioned according to the rules.

Of course, I haven't played in a tournament...so I am sure there are many others who know better than me...but looking at the rules, that would be my interpretation of what is allowed. :)

Thank You
 

Anthony,
Please call me. 620-904-7000

Geno H

I see your point...
 

I completely understand where you are coming from...but I offer this too...

Rules and laws are open to some interpretation...otherwise they can become too lenghty and difficult to understand...and in the case of EF, can take some of the fun out of it...

As an example...the Miggle Rule Book probably doesn't say you can't use a step ladder to attempt passes, but it's probably generally understood that you can't...:) (or maybe you can?)

That said...in terms of TTQB passing, there should be more specific information in the Miggle rule book about where the coach/player (not TTQB) is allowed to stand during a pass attempt...unless they really intend that to be without restrictions...

BTW...I appreciate you desire to make this hobby/sport something better...more of a real simulation than just a game...from what I have seen you have spent some serious time and thought into pushing the envelope...keep pushing...

Just a thought
 

With the size of your standard miggle field I would think there wouldn't be a reason to move around the board. Most coaches who play on the miggle board play on one endzone which means you would be directly behind your team. A coach should be able to complete every pass from this position. This rule gets tricky with the larger custom fields. I believe with custom fields you should be using custom rules.

oh yeah, and the official rule book also says that you can complete a pass either on the fly or bounce? Dont think I like that as I see some that call it a completion after the ball slides into the receiver?:confused:

LOL.....here we go again....

But I think the NHFL passing system is the best one.

Throw with a TTQB and hit a spinner, then your receiver has to run to a stick magnet.

That is the most realistic.

History That Repeats Itself Is Insanity!
 

Y AB? YOUR system ONLY makes sense to a VERY few of us. Leave it at that. I guess when I beat you at your own system you'll calm down a lil bit! Are Da BENGALS available for next year's Season? PANTHERS vs. BENGALS in MPFL SBIV! C U there. ppls$

IMHO, if you are the coach, then you stay on your sideline and use "tools" (dice, spinners, charts, etc.) to simulate the different facets of the game i.e. passing, kicking, fumbles, injuries, etc. If you are the QB, then you put yourself on the field and see from his eyes and his point-of-view. That means standing behind him and lining up on your intended target.

As realistic as your system is, it is still a simulation and everyone is entitled to interpret their own simulation/stimulation in their own way according to the way they see football.

To some it is a tabletop game, to others it is a tool to teach and still to others it is an extension of their personal id that they may or may not have seen in a few years!!!

Pick on someone your own size, bro! Holla. rtfl$

I agree Jimbo
 

The reason for TTQB is so that you are part of the game the person your skill with the TTQB can determine the outcome of the game!!This is what has made the game so fun for many you are playing with the figures.Since most of are playing for fun and I mean for fun, no money is being made you cant have a career playing electric football so its fun has to be why so many grown men are doing this and the TTQB is part of most of our fun why does AB keep at this I dont know why!!:confused:

Calm Down
 

The answer to me is very simple. If you are playing by AB's rules then you will stand on your sideline to throw the pass. If you are playing by other rules then you will stand where those rules allow you to stand. There is really nothing to argue about.

I would disagree with AB in the fact that you have called others "wrong". They are not wrong based on their experiences and how they choose to enjoy the game. They are wrong if they try to tell you how to conduct the rules in your MPFL system but I didn't see that in what I read. Their rules or understanding of their rules allow moving around the field thus they are not "wrong".

If I were to set up a league (not in my plans) and chose to use AB's rules then we would follow as such however we may add a house rule that allows moving around the field. Are we wrong? In my opinion, only if we try to play that way in the MPFL League.

For instance, I play in the NHFL. Only two backs are allowed in the backfield besides the QB. In the TAEFL we play with NHFL rules with the exception that we allow 3 backs in the backfield besides the QB. We call it the Stram rule since we are mostly Chiefs fans. The NHFL doesn't argue with us about it because it is our league to do with as we please. If we tried to play the Stram rule in the NHFL then we would be "wrong".

You're right, AB, it was a simple question. :o The OFFICIAL Electric Football Rules - both Miggle and Tudor - neither says that you "can" nor does it say that you "cannot."

In fact, of all the rules I've ever written for MF (College, Pro, Arena), I've never specifically said that you can or cannot move around the board. The only time I ever passed from the sideline was in my Army League where we each sat on our side of the field and passed with our hand - not coming onto the field nor crossing the LOS. That was the equivalent of Bill Walsh* throwing passes to Jerry Rice** and John Taylor** instead of Joe Montana***!?!?! :eek:

*insert any Coach!
**insert any two dynamic duo receivers!!
***insert any QB that threw to their dynamic duo!!!

PS, I still want a piece of them PANTHERS!

AB just asked a simple question. The answer is just as simple. If you are playing with the TTQB, you need to be able to move from one side of the board to the other for the simple reason that most guys are either right handed or left handed. If your team is moving from the right to the left and you are right handed, then you could stay on your side of the board and be able to pass. If your team is going from the left to the right, then being right handed makes it difficult, if not impossible to pass with the TTQB and still stay on your side of the board. Your elbows and wrists just don't bend in the dirrection needed to be able to pass from those angles. So the answer AB, is yes. If you are playing with the TTQB, then the coach is allowed to move from one side of the board to the other, otherwise a left handed coach couldn't play with a right handed coach, and neither could pass if the teams were going against the flow, so to speak. :p

In the Tudor and Miggle rule book, does it say that you can move around the board to throw a pass ?

In studying rules there is some time a gray area that are not covered or was never thought of so I don't know if this is the same case with this hobby.

WITH RESPECT, WHAT IS NEEDED IS NOT A RULE! My point is Does it state that in the rules!

Justifying the reason for using something doesn't make it right . If it is not in the rule then what?

The point is following rules, not the ttqb.

Well gee Anthony, I thought that Steeler dude covered what was stated on the Miggle site about passing. If there is no rule prohibiting it, then it must be ok. Since nobody has found a written rule covering which side a coach has to be on while passing, then he is free to pass from whichever side he chooses. When you get down to it, there couldn't be such a rule because of what I stated previously in the last post. If you don't agree, then simply try passing from both directions while staying on one side of the board and you will see what I'm talking about. I think sometimes you get too caught up in picking nits instead of just enjoying the game. Don't worry about it and just play! :rolleyes:

Not So
 

Well, I would have to say that since the majority of the guys here first got their games 30 - 40 years ago and were around 10 - 15 at the time, what was written in the rule book has been long lost and forgotten. I know I chucked my book away shortly after playing. It really wasn't that big a deal. We made different rules that made the game play better than what we originally had played with. Again, it's really no big deal. I don't think very many guys here could care less if a coach moves around to pass with the TTQB. Like I said before, if a coach had to stay on his side of the board to pass, it would make it almost impossible to play a game between a left handed person and a right handed person. To make such a rule would not be in the best interest of the game.

OK
 

You wanted clarification on a rule that may or may not have existed. Evidently, nobody (including myself) has any of the original rule books around. All I was trying to say is that if such a rule did or does exist, it really shouldn't. :p

In reading the rule book that came in my vintage 620, it makes no mention whatsoever about the coach's position when using the TTQB.

Shabby J

I know