ATTN ALL TTQB Passers

[Anthony D Burgess]

Dear coaches

I was thinking this morning about rules and there is something that I don't know and unsure of so I'm asking for help on this one.

In the Tudor and Miggle rule book, does it say that you can move around the board to throw a pass ?

In studying rules there is some time a gray area that are not covered or was never thought of so I don't know if this is the same case with this hobby.

[Anthony D Burgess]

With 9 coaches on this boaed at this time, some I know are TTQB passers, why hasn't anyone yet to respond ?

I can remember a little about the Tudor and Miggle rule book and I don't remember seeing that information on the passing game, meaning that you can move around the board to pass. I might be wrong, so I want to know.

Some coaches do things because it's popular, but it is not in the rules. This is done over a long period of time with no one questioning it and it somehow was over looked. Every one liked it, but no one checked to see if it was a rule or not? Or are guys making things up as they go along?

This is from the FULL GAME RULES listed on the Miggle site:

"12. The pass is attempted with the triple threat quarterback. When attempting the pass, the quarterback may be tilted as long as some part of its base remains in contact with the board inside the footprint of where the base was at when the switch was turned off. The offense has only one attempt in which to complete the pass. If the pass is complete (see definition of completion), proceed to Step 11. The offense may elect to take an automatic incompletion ("throw it away") provided that at least one receiver is open to receive a pass. If the offense misses the pass or opts to "throw it away," then skip to Step 12. If the offense throws an interception (see definition of interception), then the defensive player becomes the ball carrier. If the defensive player is engaged, then the ball is down at that point. If the defensive player is not engaged, then it may be angled and adjusted. Play continues in Step 11, but with the defender as the ball carrier and with the offense becoming "the defense."

I haven't gone through the rest of the details in the book, but I don't think it explicitly states anywhere, the "position" of the coach during the passing procedure. Since that appears to be "undefined" by the rules, I guess it is generally understood that the coach can attempt the pass from whatever angle is best, as long as his TTQB is positioned according to the rules.

Of course, I haven't played in a tournament...so I am sure there are many others who know better than me...but looking at the rules, that would be my interpretation of what is allowed.

[Anthony D Burgess]

Thanks a lot . I am not realy optimistic on something being geanerally understood by all as this is an invintation to issues.

With respect to rules as they are it should not leave anything to geaneral interpretation as some are not ethical when it comes to following rules.

Definitions must be made clear and not left up to " Geaneral interpretation "

Example: Fumble: A fumble is any act, other than a pass or legal kick, witch results in loss of player possession. The term Fumble always implies possession.

This closes all loop holes and there is no gray area as to what a fumble is, knowing that there can be no fumble without possession, no possession of a ball is a " Muff ", and that is by rule the touching of the ball by a player in an unsuccessful attempt to obtain possession.

If this hobby wants to gain the respect that we all think it need, then the rules need to be clear with no assumptions to geaneral interpretation.

[Geno H]

Anthony,
Please call me. 620-904-7000

Geno H

I completely understand where you are coming from...but I offer this too...

Rules and laws are open to some interpretation...otherwise they can become too lenghty and difficult to understand...and in the case of EF, can take some of the fun out of it...

As an example...the Miggle Rule Book probably doesn't say you can't use a step ladder to attempt passes, but it's probably generally understood that you can't... (or maybe you can?)

That said...in terms of TTQB passing, there should be more specific information in the Miggle rule book about where the coach/player (not TTQB) is allowed to stand during a pass attempt...unless they really intend that to be without restrictions...

BTW...I appreciate you desire to make this hobby/sport something better...more of a real simulation than just a game...from what I have seen you have spent some serious time and thought into pushing the envelope...keep pushing...

[Jamel_G]

With the size of your standard miggle field I would think there wouldn't be a reason to move around the board. Most coaches who play on the miggle board play on one endzone which means you would be directly behind your team. A coach should be able to complete every pass from this position. This rule gets tricky with the larger custom fields. I believe with custom fields you should be using custom rules.

[daghstrydr]

oh yeah, and the official rule book also says that you can complete a pass either on the fly or bounce? Dont think I like that as I see some that call it a completion after the ball slides into the receiver?

LOL.....here we go again....

But I think the NHFL passing system is the best one.

Throw with a TTQB and hit a spinner, then your receiver has to run to a stick magnet.

That is the most realistic.

Y AB? YOUR system ONLY makes sense to a VERY few of us. Leave it at that. I guess when I beat you at your own system you'll calm down a lil bit! Are Da BENGALS available for next year's Season? PANTHERS vs. BENGALS in MPFL SBIV! C U there.

IMHO, if you are the coach, then you stay on your sideline and use "tools" (dice, spinners, charts, etc.) to simulate the different facets of the game i.e. passing, kicking, fumbles, injuries, etc. If you are the QB, then you put yourself on the field and see from his eyes and his point-of-view. That means standing behind him and lining up on your intended target.

As realistic as your system is, it is still a simulation and everyone is entitled to interpret their own simulation/stimulation in their own way according to the way they see football.

To some it is a tabletop game, to others it is a tool to teach and still to others it is an extension of their personal id that they may or may not have seen in a few years!!!

Pick on someone your own size, bro! Holla. rtfl$