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Old 03-31-2010, 08:36 PM
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I have thought about this subject a lot since even before we had sponsors. I was originally against the idea of sponsors unless they were from outside of the miniature football area i.e. coke, pepsi, etc. I knew that eventually this subject would come up. However, I was contacted by people running miniature football business who WANTED to pay extra to be on top or more noticeable. They knew at the time how the forum worked and that the trading forum existed and they had to know that there would be people who would continue to sell, but would not spring for the extra sponsorship dollars.

There is NO pressure put on any one by the MFCA leadership to become a sponsor.Period! The only time we contact sponsors is to renew, pay their bill on time or to place their ad in the magazine. The forum is not going to go to trying to control the businesses or people that choose NOT to sponsor. Many of them donate in other ways to their customers and also to the MFCA through finances or through informative and instructive threads and articles. These have value as well.

The MFCA, is in healthy shape financially and does not require the extra $80 brought in through sponsorships. Any one who chooses to sponsor does so, not because it is "the right" thing to do, but because THEY want the extra exposure. That is the way it is and the way it will probably remain. I would rather do away with sponsorships than try to police everyone who sells something. This would, by far, be the easiest fix if this continues to create problems. It is just not worth my time or energy to try to control that.

With no disrespect to any sponsors and with no hard feelings if you decide to leave, but If any of our current sponsors feel that this is unfair, than they can ask to end their sponsorship and get their refunds. We don't need additional animosity over this. It IS that simple.
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:41 PM
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i knew this was going to happen someone getting there feelings hurt.
that is sad once you spill the water out the bottle you can't put the water back in the bottle. and you can't say oh your ok, I'm talking about someone else if any one sales something then your talking about all not who you want to point a finger at and say i was talking about them not you. thats not right not right at all.


don't go chris please don't go my friend.
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:58 PM
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I have thought about this subject a lot since even before we had sponsors. I was originally against the idea of sponsors unless they were from outside of the miniature football area i.e. coke, pepsi, etc. I knew that eventually this subject would come up. However, I was contacted by people running miniature football business who WANTED to pay extra to be on top or more noticeable. They knew at the time how the forum worked and that the trading forum existed and they had to know that there would be people who would continue to sell, but would not spring for the extra sponsorship dollars.

There is NO pressure put on any one by the MFCA leadership to become a sponsor.Period! The only time we contact sponsors is to renew, pay their bill on time or to place their ad in the magazine. The forum is not going to go to trying to control the businesses or people that choose NOT to sponsor. Many of them donate in other ways to their customers and also to the MFCA through finances or through informative and instructive threads and articles. These have value as well.

The MFCA, is in healthy shape financially and does not require the extra $80 brought in through sponsorships. Any one who chooses to sponsor does so, not because it is "the right" thing to do, but because THEY want the extra exposure. That is the way it is and the way it will probably remain. I would rather do away with sponsorships than try to police everyone who sells something. This would, by far, be the easiest fix if this continues to create problems. It is just not worth my time or energy to try to control that.

With no disrespect to any sponsors and with no hard feelings if you decide to leave, but If any of our current sponsors feel that this is unfair, than they can ask to end their sponsorship and get their refunds. We don't need additional animosity over this. It IS that simple.
Thanks for the insight and the position. You and I both know that some members have had long standing issues with membership/sponsorship matters and the like. As anyone knows Chris has done most all my teams except my Giants that Mike did. However, he has long ago held his own position, as many of do, with regard to what direction the hobby, and board, should take. Quite simply, he has his own position. To some extent others have theirs including yourself.

I actually agree with doing away with the sponsorships because it does create conflict when you wonder why others who benefit more are not stepping up. Period. Just on those premises, with no arguement to present, a person's work should speak for itself.

Hopefully, those who have darn near closed down the trading forum with their shady antics will not try to captilize on a person who has integrity by using his position to further their own exploits. Unfortunately, I already see signs of that.

The people I patronize with my money?, we have more in common than electric football and if our integrity is on opposite ends of the table it is still recognized as integrity so our friendship remains. Simply stated, Chris is my real friend regardless to this forum or these comments. We didn't meet here and if he leaves we'll still talk because what matters most is that we became friends first, then did business. If everyone did that we wouldn't have a need for this discussion. He always got paid, and I never was disappointed.

Thank you for the intelligent, non political as always, response Wolf!

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Old 04-01-2010, 12:00 AM
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