universal base-tweaking truths

Mark,

One product that I would design if I were able to do so would be a weighted base. Our system (MPFL) uses figures with unlimited weight with the logic in mind that a base that is too-heavy will not be able to stand (sort of like an obese chicken). Also, a base that is too light voids strength and power.

If I were going to design a new base, I would create them in three to four types from super-heavy to super light-weight (on rookie prongs). Our system is growing fast and a base tailored to this sytle of play would be a huge asset. Also, a base that runs straight consistently is the way to go. If players would only run straight right out of the bag, it would be much easier to promote the hobby to newcomers.

Outside of that, I'd say that base prongs seem to be too weak and flimsy generally. Perhaps a base with a stronger more durable plastic would help.

Bases that move straight in any direction (no arch) would be also be perfect for our style. Then we could create complex blocking schemes in our rookie base system.

I am going to ask AB to chime in on this. We can solve any mystery when working in concert.

I'll will reply again tomorrow.

[mklingbeil]

Red pegs WILL be among those included. Do you find it an accident that the Miggle Proline bases (single clip) have a hole in them? We wanted Mike to do it, but we can make ours to fit both our rookie bases and the others.

Bill and I have found the PERFECT plastic. I sent a master tweaker a couple of bases and he was very excited about them. Now, if we can get the design correct, we can really have something good for this hobby!

That is why I am asking for your help, and I very much appreciate the input already given!

Mark

PS Weirdwolf...I would love to do that idea, but it is nearly impossible. The prongs are best when thinnest, and that single prong would have to be .3mm thick at the minimum. That being the case, tweaked prongs are best when between .1-.2mm thick, and there wouldn't be enough room to properly tweak. I played with that idea and was unable to come up with a solution.

Decalmaster...Actually, some of the bases we are going to make will be oversized. Bill and I are making them for our solitaire league, but will offer them for sale as well. There will be a large Rookie base, a boat base, and two large TTC bases (one replicating a boiled base). Everyone else don't worry though, most bases will conform to strict standards for EF play. There will be 14-15 bases on the mold, and only four will be Non-Standard!

Tron...I could definitely use those guys help as well, but I only know Jim Davis and Mike Pratt. I have already spoken with Jim, but would LOVE to talk with Mike, since I have a great admiration for his skill, and we worked well together on the Proline bases. If the other guys would want to help, I would definitely be open to talking with them...I can use all the help I can get!

K-Lo...If you love the dials...well, trust me, this new base will make the dials look like child's play. Imagine doing just about ANYTHING with a base...any direction, any curve...that is what is coming! Additonally, we are going to add a few dials that will fit into ANY TTC base in this mold. I am really excited about this, can you tell?

[mklingbeil]

anyone else?

[Geno H]

Mark,
You have it covered, You have done this before so the base building is the easy part. The money IS VERY TOUGH. But the hardest part is selling them. The F5 is a great base.That has not been blessed by ANY of the heavy hitters in this hobby. Newcomers have bought all we have sold for the most part.( which isnt very many). This is the part that has me baffled. The fact that the BIG BOYS wont even give it a try. I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! Trust me the F5 is VERY VERSATILE base.

Geno H

P.S. Did not mean to jump your post. But there was an audience.
Some of you HEAVY HITTERS CALL ME 620-904-7000

[Geno H]

The only other thing I will add is I stand no monetary gain for the success of the F5 I am just a spokesman and product tester. I buy my own bases at retail from Tornado Alley EFS.

Geno H

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by Geno H

Mark,
You have it covered, You have done this before so the base building is the easy part. The money IS VERY TOUGH. But the hardest part is selling them. The F5 is a great base.That has not been blessed by ANY of the heavy hitters in this hobby. Newcomers have bought all we have sold for the most part.( which isnt very many). This is the part that has me baffled. The fact that the BIG BOYS wont even give it a try. I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! Trust me the F5 is VERY VERSATILE base.

Geno H

P.S. Did not mean to jump your post. But there was an audience.

I only have one bag and have not given them the lab test just yet. I only worked with one before I had to work on my SWB team ( a lot of good that was)....

Don't feel bad about it. If you are tweaking "G-Force" bases are they are NOT F5 - ask yourself 'Why not??'
just a thought.......

......... sorry Mike.........

[Geno H]

Thanks Coach Lo,

All makes of bases are tweaked at G-FORCE. They all have thier place on a full roster. (old & new). I have at least 2 dozen of every base I have been able to purchase.(old & new)


Geno H

[artlax]

Originally Posted by Geno H

Mark,
You have it covered, You have done this before so the base building is the easy part. The money IS VERY TOUGH. But the hardest part is selling them. The F5 is a great base.That has not been blessed by ANY of the heavy hitters in this hobby. Newcomers have bought all we have sold for the most part.( which isnt very many). This is the part that has me baffled. The fact that the BIG BOYS wont even give it a try. I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! Trust me the F5 is VERY VERSATILE base.

Geno H

P.S. Did not mean to jump your post. But there was an audience.
Some of you HEAVY HITTERS CALL ME 620-904-7000

So far I have found them a bit tippy. Shortened the rear prongs as you suggested in the "tweak" but still having some trouble. I am new to the tweaking though so maybe it is me. I may call you for advice Geno - is that ok? Working on training some to add to my Packers that will be playing in the NYEFL this year - first season in league.

[Geno H]

NO PROLEM! I will be glad to help you anyway I can.


Geno H

May the G-FORCE be with you.

[Franny-j-boy]

Mark,I've called a couple of times and if you get a chance please give me a call. I know you are busy though. I can't wait to see these bases. How long till they would come out?

Frank Jacobs (859)445-1987