Weirdwolf

[RooMorgans]

Of no judgment either way to the points raised in Anthony's post above, it is worth pointing out that EF is not the only hands-on sports game/hobby in the U.S.

http://www.americansubbuteo.com

[Silverhorse 228]

Hey check out their national rankings system...that is exactly what we should have! Hey Wolf...what do you think?

[wolverine]

ooooooooooo....iiiiiiiiiiiii...liiiiiiiiiiiike it......it would not hurt my feelings to be last...but what about others...you know how some ALWAYS hvae to be # 1

[RooMorgans]

Not to threadjack here, but just since a couple folks showed interest in that link, I'll share some other information regarding the ASA that may or may not be correlated to EF:

* The ASA is a partner nation of FISTF, the international table soccer governing body. FISTF has a world ranking system, of which our players are a part, and we host international tournaments every year as part of the World Tour.

* The ASA rankings are an ongoing source of discussion, and were just recently changed to include "rolling" rankings in addition to the points race for the season. A season runs from September 1 of one year to August 31 of the next, thus, our 2007-08 season just began with the Delaware Valley Open on Saturday. There is no perfect system for such a thing - the majority seem to like what we have.

* Tournaments are fields of 12-24, however there is an upcoming tournament in Maryland likely to surpass 60 players.

* The ASA has been much more successful at developing youth players than EF has. In fact, some of our youth players have won full tournaments themselves, and challenge well in their age group in international events. How? Like the reason you rob a bank - that's where the money is! If you want kids to play, get in the schools!

* The ASA has had a Board of Directors (5 folks, one person for each region, with one serving as President) for many years. These are the policy makers for the game in our country, as representatives of the ASA members in their region. ASA membership is granted by playing in a tournament at any point and paying tourney fees, then confirming membership information either online or with your region's VP.

Ed
(ASA Mid-Atlantic VP 2004-06)

[GUTTMANN]

Tom Ruesink has a ranking formula. He used to post it on our league site.
www.tothehouse.com
You may want to contact him for a more "In-depth" explanation of the ranking formula.
Mike

[RooMorgans]

Originally Posted by GUTTMANN

Tom Ruesink has a ranking formula. He used to post it on our league site.
www.tothehouse.com
You may want to contact him for a more "In-depth" explanation of the ranking formula.
Mike

I kind of created those ("RooPI") - at least the first version that he used on the site. It was created as a bit of a copycat of the ASA Rankings of the time, or so I figured - points earned for level of finish in tournaments based on number of players in the tournament, with bigger tournaments being designated as "majors" and being worth more points. That way someone who bounced in the quarterfinals of a 32-coach tourney probably would get similar points to someone who made the final of an 8-coach tourney, given that they would have had to win the same number of elimination games to get to those stages of the respective tournaments. I think there may have even then been an intended component for points for tourney finish based on strength of schedule, but I don't remember.

I don't totally know how they are figured up now. For ASA, I think we dispatched of the "major" designation a year or so ago.

[Anthony D Burgess]

I would love to work on that , this is what we need.

Originally Posted by Silverhorse 228

Hey check out their national rankings system...that is exactly what we should have! Hey Wolf...what do you think?

[WEIRDWOLF]

This is also one of the goals of the MFCA. To create a ranking system. I had visited with Tom Ruesink about this in the past few months and he is willing to be part of a committee that would develop this. There is so much going on with the MFCA that I haven't had time to focus that direction but if there is an interest by the coaches then we can start that process. A committe should involve at least 3 coaches. If Roo, Tom and Anthony would want to develop this I think we would have a great start or if there are others that would want to serve on this. I would also like to see one member from the West on this committee. The key point, (and I say this to all MFCA comittees) is that we keep our minds open to ALL systems and look at it from a National perspective which means we may have drop some preconcieved ideas or at least be open minded and accept that we are all trying to enjoy and better the game.

Guys, Iam excited about all the prospects and the open minded attitudes that are starting to prevail in this hobby.

[RooMorgans]

I'm always happy to do whatever to help out so if you'd me aboard for this, count me in.

Roo

[NEW CASTLE HiTMEN]

THIS IS WRITTEN IN MY OWN OPINION! Just have to sound off a little. When I joined this association I was under the assumption that everyone is equal. I know what happens when you assume something. Now, being very competitve myself I would like to see a ranking. But what about the guy just finding this hobby again. Or someone taking his son or nephews to a convention just to have fun and NOT TO COMPETE. If coaches want to compete thats fine by me but to rank all MFCA members may have a negative affect on this association. I know as a coach I just want to have fun and play a game that I had and loved as a child. Nothing more, nothing less.