please explain illegal formations in the NFL AND MINIATURE FOOTBALL

[Anthony D Burgess]

Jimbo, I think it is illegal touching of a forward pass if it hit a linman. ? I'm not suer but I think that is what it is.

Also if there are 2 forward passes on the same play. Throwing forward to a player behind the line and that player throwing a pass.

Yep! Ur right! Same difference, tho. Illegal all the same!

[Anthony D Burgess]

It would be of great benefit to all if you experts can break down to the MF community, what all of our options are in getting a detailed playbook together. I think every coach should have some form of a playbook under arm at each game trying to run their sets. See the above link for Interactive Playbooks or check out Madden's Playbooks! Or watch/record your team on TV and run their playbook, noting which plays are used in different downs and distances

Jimbo

Jimbo I think that this is a good idea, but there must first be a direction on how you want to play this game.

You can't pick and choose what eliments you want to use. Your either playing the old school way were the eliments of actual football don't apply, or your going to play it as a actual football simulation game were all the essential eliment of the game apply.

I have been asking this questions for years, and no one wants to answer it. This leads back to the fail safe responce of, ( there is no right or wrong way of playing ) If this hobby is to advance to the next level and gain the respect every one want's it to have we must draw the line and start to answer this question.

[Anthony D Burgess]

I went to the link and love it. You see that the player have an assignment on the play as to who they are to block.

They understand what there job is and then they have to go get it done. They recat to what takes place .

These plays can and are often run in my system just as you see it hear.

You must understand who blocks who on each play, see what the players see's and react to it.

Thanks Jimbo

[5-13 Studios]

in a formation, you must have both of your tackles (end linemen) "covered". this means having a receiver or tight end on the line. no more, and no less than 7 men may be on the line. every other player must be at least 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage (in nfl rules). you may have multiple wr's on one side of the line (trips formation), but only one is allowed on the line of sscrimmage.

confused yet?

[Reginald Rutledge]

the DFW rulebook or coaches in the DFW League if this is a league specific question.

One of the things you will find in our rulebook is not only does it contains more than 100 pages (which I think is very important) but the information is very logical and created by me. I've played football, coached, and officiated on different levels and I have the mind of an engineer so what I write is pretty consistent with the logic of football.

It is a disrespect to our league when guys say "No disrepect to that league about knowing the rules" but don't get it twisted, I certainly take great pride in knowing and writing rule books. Unfortunately these are still plastic men who have to be placed on the line of scrimmage but the 7 on the line is an elementary concept that we can definitely go over when you come to Texas.

I just get tired of guys in a back-handed manner slamming what others perceive football to be. It just makes me sick sometimes!

Reg

[Anthony D Burgess]

I want to thank you for asking a football related question. While many get cought up in tweaking, TTQB passing, figures. All of that is nice, but Football is the name of the game.

Look at the NFL PlayBook; this is what it's all about. Look at how the play works; lookt at the reactions and movement of the players.

I love to see the X's and O's of the game come to life as the athletes use there football intelligents along with there abilities to do there part in making the play. There is some luck in the game, but it makes up about 10% of the actual game.

You don't see players running around without a clue of what they should be doing. One coach told me about the 3 R's; Read; Recognize; and React. He said you must be able to do all three to play the game.

Read: See how the players move, pick up on players clues, and formations as to what the play is, did the "O" lineman stand up or fire out? Is the WR running hard or not, Is the Back looking at the hole he is going to. One on one chess match.

Recognize: Were is the play going, is it a run or pass, left middle right, long or short alert your teammates.

React: Get to the ball. Fight off blocks, sift through trash, take the right pursuite angles.

This is what I love about the game, you need more than just passing skills, speed and power, you have to think and coach.

Reg is right, these are just little plastic men, but so are chess figures. It's all in how you use them and the role you place on them.

If you value them as plastic men then that's all they will be. I value them as a reflection of the athlete.

[mantaraydre]

COACHES,


Can i put a TE on both sides of the line and not put any wr's on the line ?


!) swing pass to the running back, if the ball is on the 25 yard line and the qb drops back to pass, at what point can i hit the running coming out iof the backfield ? Does he have to cross the 25 yard line or can i hit him before he gets there ?

2) Quick out pass to a slot receceiver, at what point (exact yardline) can i throw a quick out thats legal ? 1) dropping back to pass 2) in the shotgun ?

3) qb in the shotgun position, the runningbacks are lets say a yard ahead of him or right next to him, at what point can i throw it to the running backs coming out of the backfield ?

4) can two tight ends line up right next to each other ?

THANX
MANTARAY- DRE


Also, Have you seen when a qb drops back then swings it out to the running, isn't the running behind the line of scrimmage ? This is where im getting coonfused. I use to see Montana hit Rathman all the time coming out of the backfield. Im just trying to figure out how to run that in miniaturefootball.

Is it impossible to run a running back to receiver reverse behind the line of scrim ? ala santana moss !

[5-13 Studios]

absolutely, i forget what that formation is called.

1)check with your league
2)checkwith your league
3)check with your league
4)as long as they are not both on the line of scrimmage at the same time, i don't see why not.

in big people ball (as opposed to miniature ball), there is only 1 forward pass allowed per play, and no forward passes are allowed beyond the line of scrimmage. other than that, the ball cn be thrown just about anywhere, just not to a lineman. as far as recreating that, in our league you are allowed to adjust the receiver after the pass is completed, so one could run a back towards the sideline to help set up this sort of a play.

[NEW CASTLE HiTMEN]

Good post! Jimbo excellent website. I can spend all day on that site.