ATTN ALL TTQB Passers

[Anthony D Burgess]

Thanks a lot . I am not realy optimistic on something being geanerally understood by all as this is an invintation to issues.

With respect to rules as they are it should not leave anything to geaneral interpretation as some are not ethical when it comes to following rules.

Definitions must be made clear and not left up to " Geaneral interpretation "

Example: Fumble: A fumble is any act, other than a pass or legal kick, witch results in loss of player possession. The term Fumble always implies possession.

This closes all loop holes and there is no gray area as to what a fumble is, knowing that there can be no fumble without possession, no possession of a ball is a " Muff ", and that is by rule the touching of the ball by a player in an unsuccessful attempt to obtain possession.

If this hobby wants to gain the respect that we all think it need, then the rules need to be clear with no assumptions to geaneral interpretation.

[Geno H]

Anthony,
Please call me. 620-904-7000

Geno H

I completely understand where you are coming from...but I offer this too...

Rules and laws are open to some interpretation...otherwise they can become too lenghty and difficult to understand...and in the case of EF, can take some of the fun out of it...

As an example...the Miggle Rule Book probably doesn't say you can't use a step ladder to attempt passes, but it's probably generally understood that you can't... (or maybe you can?)

That said...in terms of TTQB passing, there should be more specific information in the Miggle rule book about where the coach/player (not TTQB) is allowed to stand during a pass attempt...unless they really intend that to be without restrictions...

BTW...I appreciate you desire to make this hobby/sport something better...more of a real simulation than just a game...from what I have seen you have spent some serious time and thought into pushing the envelope...keep pushing...

[Jamel_G]

With the size of your standard miggle field I would think there wouldn't be a reason to move around the board. Most coaches who play on the miggle board play on one endzone which means you would be directly behind your team. A coach should be able to complete every pass from this position. This rule gets tricky with the larger custom fields. I believe with custom fields you should be using custom rules.

[daghstrydr]

oh yeah, and the official rule book also says that you can complete a pass either on the fly or bounce? Dont think I like that as I see some that call it a completion after the ball slides into the receiver?

LOL.....here we go again....

But I think the NHFL passing system is the best one.

Throw with a TTQB and hit a spinner, then your receiver has to run to a stick magnet.

That is the most realistic.

Y AB? YOUR system ONLY makes sense to a VERY few of us. Leave it at that. I guess when I beat you at your own system you'll calm down a lil bit! Are Da BENGALS available for next year's Season? PANTHERS vs. BENGALS in MPFL SBIV! C U there.

IMHO, if you are the coach, then you stay on your sideline and use "tools" (dice, spinners, charts, etc.) to simulate the different facets of the game i.e. passing, kicking, fumbles, injuries, etc. If you are the QB, then you put yourself on the field and see from his eyes and his point-of-view. That means standing behind him and lining up on your intended target.

As realistic as your system is, it is still a simulation and everyone is entitled to interpret their own simulation/stimulation in their own way according to the way they see football.

To some it is a tabletop game, to others it is a tool to teach and still to others it is an extension of their personal id that they may or may not have seen in a few years!!!

Pick on someone your own size, bro! Holla. rtfl$

[jimmie]

The reason for TTQB is so that you are part of the game the person your skill with the TTQB can determine the outcome of the game!!This is what has made the game so fun for many you are playing with the figures.Since most of are playing for fun and I mean for fun, no money is being made you cant have a career playing electric football so its fun has to be why so many grown men are doing this and the TTQB is part of most of our fun why does AB keep at this I dont know why!!

[WEIRDWOLF]

The answer to me is very simple. If you are playing by AB's rules then you will stand on your sideline to throw the pass. If you are playing by other rules then you will stand where those rules allow you to stand. There is really nothing to argue about.

I would disagree with AB in the fact that you have called others "wrong". They are not wrong based on their experiences and how they choose to enjoy the game. They are wrong if they try to tell you how to conduct the rules in your MPFL system but I didn't see that in what I read. Their rules or understanding of their rules allow moving around the field thus they are not "wrong".

If I were to set up a league (not in my plans) and chose to use AB's rules then we would follow as such however we may add a house rule that allows moving around the field. Are we wrong? In my opinion, only if we try to play that way in the MPFL League.

For instance, I play in the NHFL. Only two backs are allowed in the backfield besides the QB. In the TAEFL we play with NHFL rules with the exception that we allow 3 backs in the backfield besides the QB. We call it the Stram rule since we are mostly Chiefs fans. The NHFL doesn't argue with us about it because it is our league to do with as we please. If we tried to play the Stram rule in the NHFL then we would be "wrong".

[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan1967

I haven't gone through the rest of the details in the book, but I don't think it explicitly states anywhere, the "position" of the coach during the passing procedure. Since that appears to be "undefined" by the rules, I guess it is generally understood that the coach can attempt the pass from whatever angle is best, as long as his TTQB is positioned according to the rules.

There isn't an explanation of where the coach/player is positioned... because... It's obvious that it's at whatever position he wants to stand to get the best angle between the TTQB and the receiver...

The only way that wouldn't be true is if the rules explicitly said you had to stay on one sideline or another..

But again... even at that..
It doesn't make rulesets that state the coach/player must stay on his sideline... wrong.. It's just a different ruleset.

There are different rulesets for NFL, CFL, College, Arena, and even some of the smaller indoor professional leagues have rules that differ.... Some similar, some very different in some ways... TADA.. No wrong way..