Are The Day's Of Playing 3.2 Slowly Becoming A Pastime.

[WEIRDWOLF]

Originally Posted by Reginald Rutledge

are you the voice of good reason-all the time?

You make me sick (LOL)

Ok...how well do you know Bill aka Larry. Now I am really confused.

[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by WEIRDWOLF

Ok...how well do you know Bill aka Larry. Now I am really confused.

HEY HEY HEY WOLF...
He just knows the electric football Bill...

He has no clue about my total lack of reasoning skills when it comes to women.. LOL

[Shabby J]

be it at 3.2 or 4.0, for league play everyone gets together and decides on a weight, be it one weight for all positions or allowing different weight at different positions.

We are dead in the middle of MF's greatest era yet, with all these different figures coming out, all the accessories, not to mention the custom boards, we need to embrace the weight increase, as long as everyone in a league can agree. If you are hosting a tourney then let the rules committee set the weight or play using the host leagues ruleset.

I have been building teams around the 3.2 weight since I returned to the hobby three years ago, as from what I read and heard everywhere that was the "standard", if you will. I will say since getting my 308 field some of my 3.2 players do not move as fast I would like, Reg told me that heavier players will really move better on the board. I am now going to build around the 4.0 after a lot of experimentation on my 308 with various figures and bases at different weights.

Reg does not need to promote 4.0 because his based up figures weigh in over 3.2, he as many of you, like myself have found out that 4.0 weight offers better play. Rest assured, 3.2 will not be going anywhere for a long time, the fab 5 on a TTC or rookie is a killer set up, especially tweaked for speed and strength on a good running 620, that is some sweet MF right there. I got some 3.2 backs that will haul arse on the 308 too.

We should not panic about the weight issue, we are all managing somehow to work it out right now, as a lot of you have posted about the different weights you are playing. It's all good.

I'm glad my bros. in Detroit didn't take my "offer" the wrong way, except Chuck thinks I think that he thinks that I think that he thinks that I think skills in the "D" are subpar. THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, RUTH! 15 yards for Unsportsmanlike Thinking!

Example: If Norbert tweaked 100 bases EXACTLY the same and put 50 on Haitis/Buzzballs and the other 50 on ff.coms, and then jumped in the cloning machine from The Fly so he could coach both teams against each other, who would win? That's the $1,000,000 Question.

I agree that each league grows differently and we (the MWEFL) have never turned anyone away because of their equipment or should I say they never turned away because Ronnie has all the pretty teams. Since making our own big boards, we have found heavier guys move better, yet there is still a need for that slippery, slimy, exceptionally fast but not as strong 3.2 guy. It comes down to a snowy night in Chicago aka Monster Board. Which would YOU rather drive? A '69 Mustang (3.2) or a Dept. Of Transportation Snow Plow (4.0)? Weight and power is needed in that situation. On a clear sunny day (620), the reverse would prolly win. We're just looking at 2 extremes that can EASILY be advantageous in different situations. Look what Appalachian State did to Michigan!?! It could happen on any given Sunday. As long as BOTH coaches know what they're getting into I think it would make for great competition.

In the game between Norbert and McNorbert, I'd bet money at the end that there would be bases (players) from one team that would find their way onto the other team to create a balance. There's a need for 3.2 on EVERY team. The same could be said for 4.0. Naturally, there'd be a need to split the difference, thus 3.6.

I think THIS needs to be the NEW STANDARD: 3.2, 3.6 AND 4.0. It's just The American Way. flg$ "Denny Crain!"

[Norbert Revels]

As long as coaches are playing and having fun man, that should be it, period, if a tournament or league called for it, I would play in the winter time on the roof on a cookie sheet tapping it with army men glued to my bases, I DON'T CARE, I love this hobby. and just want to play.

Norbert Revels
Thee,......32 Counter Trap

... but RJ asked me for my opinion. Before I give it, here are a few comments:

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

Coaches,
Are the days of playing 3.2 slowly becoming a pastime?

To answer your question Dre... YES and NO. If the manufacturers continue to increase the weights of their figures and or bases;the answer is YES. Examples: Certain FF.com figures and Miggle Bigmen repros come right out of the bag weighing near or over 2.0 grams. Some of the current colored Miggle TTC bases are weighing in at 1.3 grams.

As long as leagues and tournaments continue to play at 3.2/3.3 weight standard. (and there are a lot of us) the answer is NO.

Originally Posted by Treks1

Not knocking 3.6 or 4.0 but 3.2 works well for us. I for one am satisfied with the 3.2 standard.

Then keep doing what you do and don't sweat anything else.

Originally Posted by Treks1

Even the title of this post clearly suggest that coaches who play 3.2 are playing with an out-dated system. How is moving up in weight growing?
What are you talking about? Nothing childish about 3.2. That's just your opinion and you are welcome to it but obviously not everyone agrees.

Steve... We play 3.2 here as well and I wasn't offended by the title of Dre's post. As you so eloquently stated, it's his opinion and he's certainly entitled to it, and we all don't have to agree.

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

What im trying to say is why is 3.2 the cap in some area's. Im not saying make all of your players 4.0 and have none at 3.2. For instance, if i want my lineman and line backers at 4.0, and my wr's at 3.2 why cant i have a team like that. Also, some db's at 3.2. If i went to weigh my players before a game and a lineman is let's say 3.8, can he play or does he have to sit ?

Because when in Rome you do as the Romans. You can personally build your team anyway you want. However... if you're going to join a league or play in a tournament you're going to have to adhere to the policies and guidelines of said league or event. The choice is yours.

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

At some tourney's i had players maybe a gram over and was asked to make them lighter. My point is you got to be kidding me. Im not the only one who experienced this. They said what i said, you go to be kidding me.

The only thing your quote is telling me is that you went to an event unprepared, and those that agreed with you were unprepared as well. ***Newsflash bro!!!*** If you show up to a 4.0 event with players weighing 4.2, I'm pretty sure they are going to ask you to make them lighter. The standard of weight isn't the problem in situations like this... it's failure by coaches to follow an event's guidelines, and come prepared when you walk through the door.

Originally Posted by Jamel_G

I'm a great Lakes coach who plays mostly at 3.0 to 3.1. However, I think with the change in the base weights the rule could be tweaked to 3.3 since most bases from miggle out the bag are 1.3 .

Originally Posted by WolverineFan

As others have stated even with the miggle ttc going up in weight you kinda have to go up to 3.3.

Jamel and Chuck... Jim Davis brought this to our attention a few days before the last year's SWB. We really couldn't do anything about it at that time, but we told him it would be addressed this year. We've already agreed that standard TTC bases have increased a tenth of a gram... so 3.3 is definitely the way to go. However... Jim is doing some experimenting for us to determine the average weight of a standard TTC shell with a proline dial. Thus 3.3 may not be enough... we'll have to wait and see.

Lastly, my opinion................. 3.2 or 4.0 which is better? To be honest I don't know, nor do I care. I'm the type of person who, if I attend an event or join a league... Just tell me what I can or cannot do, and tell me what I can or cannot use, and I'll be ready to rock. I'm just a coach who believes that our hobby IS making some progress; I'll leave the rest of the debates for the politicians. As usual I'm only speaking for me; I'm not suggesting that people do what I do.

Peace to all,

OldSchool

Don,

You have the wisdom of King Solomon!

[mantaraydre]

And Sleeptight !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I Thought This Post Was Going Well !!!!!!!


Mantaraydre

[Treks1]

Like Mr. Revels, Mr. Smith and others put it, I just want to play..... 3.2, 3.3 g, 3.6 g, 4.0 g, whatever.....

[sweetka]

Want to play with any figure I like. Fab Five, Buzzball, FF.com, Electric Gridiron, and of course, Great Lakes CCCUUUSSSTTTOOOMMMSSS! fouru2hate and one2watch!

For those of you who are interested. I will be showing off a team painted for me by none other than the legendary Dirk Thomas. They are old, faded but there is no mistaking the trademark strokes of the greatest EF painter, and Person that I will ever know. If anyone has a picture I can download to put with my display I would be greatly indebted.

I had to fight a T.O. moment when I pulled them out the box. They are some 49ers, oversized to be 3.2 because in the DEFL we didn't use TTC's, but for some odd reason we had that standard. They are about 9 years old. Keep your stuff!

Take care and see you ballers in a week


SHA!

Ken