EF Leagues and Real Life Coaching

[Anthony D Burgess]

Originally Posted by 2badjim

A commissioner is a player in this league just like ever one else,he is not the coach of the league,Rules are changed every year from the NFL,Collage,High School, on down to us,A rule is presented & the owners vote.A league should be a democracy not a dictatorship,if i think our league would better benifit from a certain rule or whatever the case may be, i shold be able to bring it to the league table for discussion without feeling i'm bucking up against the commissioner,coaches make up a league,A commissioner carries out & governs what the LEAGUE has agreed upon lets keep this thing simple,the commish is trying to coach a GAME just as u are,but thats just me.

Please take the time to rearead the post as it is clear that you miss the point.

Don't let you're focus be on rules. You refer to NFL, Collage, High School but you do not see the point I'm trying to make. You're mind is closed off and I just want you to open you're mind.

This is not about rules, or styles as some may make this out to be, however it is all about personal conduct, and respect for you're self and those that are over you.

The Commissioner's role is to do what is best for the league and to protect the reputation of the league, as should it be in you're league in my opinion.

When you please others you tend to break down the structure that is set in place.

But there is a truth to you're statment, and what you stated does work when all the member are of one mind and one direction and that is to do what is best for the structure of football, to insure fair game play.

However when member abuse this privilege buy offering a change that benefits them while breaking the foundation of that structure, then the system you refer to fails.

Bill,

I am not trying to start anything, just expressing an observation based on what I have seen.

You told me that people don't like otheres because thay don't understand, they can't see the point they are trying to make, they are misunderstood.

I would think you of all people would understand that post as we have talked about that supervisor that no one wants to work under but in the end is the vary same one every one wants. And it is all about trust and respect.

Good luck on you're next game vs the Falcons

I understood the point,but every league has its own type of Al Davis.He has his ways about him, but Al Davis has been great for football,its not all bad.sometimes that outlaw keeps a league focused,the commissioner of the EFL LEAGUES are NOT THE COACH or BOSS of the LEAGUE.Yes we all have to respect the love of this great hobby that we all share.Let the outlaw play & have fun too, one or two hard heads will never be as strong as the league.

A commissioner is a player in this league just like ever one else,he is not the coach of the league,Rules are changed every year from the NFL,Collage,High School, on down to us,A rule is presented & the owners vote.A league should be a democracy not a dictatorship,if i think our league would better benifit from a certain rule or whatever the case may be, i shold be able to bring it to the league table for discussion without feeling i'm bucking up against the commissioner,coaches make up a league,A commissioner carries out & governs what the LEAGUE has agreed upon lets keep this thing simple,the commish is trying to coach a GAME just as u are,but thats just me.

2badjim,

I agree that a league should be a democracy and not a dictatorship. We would always vote on rules, some would get put in and some would not. But the risk is this: There are always some coaches who want to change rules to suit their personal benefit as opposed to the benefit of the league. Or they will try to change a rule to work against 1 particular coach who is kicking the rest of the league's arse. To me this is wack. Make your team better or learn to coach better don't try to change a rule. Changes and suggestions are good but before we even bring to them to the table we need to make sure that we have the leagues best interest at heart!

Don't know what ya'll talking 'bout...just speaking from my experience

DMC

[Electric Coach]

I think what is going on with all of the disagreements that we have on this board is that we fail to keep our issues with one another within certain boundaries. Basically, keep your personal issues to yourself and at home. Don’t bring them to the message board nor bring them to the tournaments. Act like you have some sense. Stop trippin’.

Present your disagreements clearly and intelligently; doing that will help to alleviate some of the strife that goes on here sometimes.

Maurice

The Electric Coach

[Anthony D Burgess]

Gentlemen

I want to apologies for sharing something I thought was positive and that might help this hobby as a hole grow and gain respect.

I was hoping to start a intellectual conversation, but as I can see no one wants to embrace that. I had hoped to find open minds, but I see that they are still closed.

I guess people/coaches will only view things from one perspective, and make assumptions based on what they think rather then trying to see things from another point of view.

I guess if I wrote about the nice weather I'm seeing right now that someone will misunderstand that to.

When we try to inject what we think about what we have read, rather then try to understand where someone is coming from we will only cause strife and discord among each other.

Again, I apologies for attempting a intellectual conversation.

It was a mistake to make that post.

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by Anthony D Burgess

Gentlemen

I want to apologies for sharing something I thought was positive and that might help this hobby as a hole grow and gain respect.

I was hoping to start a intellectual conversation, but as I can see no one wants to embrace that. I had hoped to find open minds, but I see that they are still closed.

I guess people/coaches will only view things from one perspective, and make assumptions based on what they think rather then trying to see things from another point of view.

I guess if I wrote about the nice weather I'm seeing right now that someone will misunderstand that to.

When we try to inject what we think about what we have read, rather then try to understand where someone is coming from we will only cause strife and discord among each other.

Again, I apologies for attempting a intellectual conversation.

It was a mistake to make that post.

Some of this thread presents some interesting ideas. My question to you - are you willing to do what you are asking others to do?? I only ask because I can understand your view, but each member (player) must make that choice before they sign the contract ......

[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by 2badjim

A commissioner is a player in this league just like ever one else,he is not the coach of the league,Rules are changed every year from the NFL,Collage,High School, on down to us,A rule is presented & the owners vote.A league should be a democracy not a dictatorship,if i think our league would better benifit from a certain rule or whatever the case may be, i shold be able to bring it to the league table for discussion without feeling i'm bucking up against the commissioner,coaches make up a league,A commissioner carries out & governs what the LEAGUE has agreed upon lets keep this thing simple,the commish is trying to coach a GAME just as u are,but thats just me.

Originally Posted by 2badjim

I understood the point,but every league has its own type of Al Davis.He has his ways about him, but Al Davis has been great for football,its not all bad.sometimes that outlaw keeps a league focused,the commissioner of the EFL LEAGUES are NOT THE COACH or BOSS of the LEAGUE.Yes we all have to respect the love of this great hobby that we all share.Let the outlaw play & have fun too, one or two hard heads will never be as strong as the league.

Originally Posted by davidmc

2badjim,

I agree that a league should be a democracy and not a dictatorship. We would always vote on rules, some would get put in and some would not. But the risk is this: There are always some coaches who want to change rules to suit their personal benefit as opposed to the benefit of the league. Or they will try to change a rule to work against 1 particular coach who is kicking the rest of the league's arse. To me this is wack. Make your team better or learn to coach better don't try to change a rule. Changes and suggestions are good but before we even bring to them to the table we need to make sure that we have the leagues best interest at heart!

Don't know what ya'll talking 'bout...just speaking from my experience

DMC

Agree wholeheartedly guys..

The Tornado Alley EFL has adopted a lot of rules changes this year.. but all with the intention of opening up the offense.. Which has been a complete success.. the best coaches are still the best coaches.. we're just all having a lot more fun and scoring more points doing it.

I think I'm the commissioner.. WOLF!.. Am I the commissioner or are you? I guess we never really hammered that out.. We just all work together to make the game as enjoyable as possible..

We don't collect league dues either..

If we do indeed finally.. and I mean finally make that recruiting push we keep talking about. then ya.. we'll need a commissioner.. as it is now.. We just make calls to fellow coaches/players when we have a question on rules..

It works for us.

[WEIRDWOLF]

Originally Posted by Kansas Bill

I think I'm the commissioner.. WOLF!.. Am I the commissioner or are you? I guess we never really hammered that out.. We just all work together to make the game as enjoyable as possible..

You are the Commissioner! I happily bow to your wisdom....

[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by WEIRDWOLF

You are the Commissioner! I happily bow to your wisdom....

My wisdom??!!!
We're screwed.. LOL

I feel i'm missing somthing here,theres a deeper message in all of this that i'm not aware of,i thought we were just having a heart to heart talk,come on guys lets keep this in clean fun,there is enough for every one.