no more stacking

[Pirate Rick]

ok ..i might get blasted but who cares..... since your whining about defensive stacking.. are you also willing to stop playing with offensive stacking? when people run the ball what do most do ?? run a running back with a lead blocker behind a o linemen...hmmm 3 to 1 ratio offence advantage. So your telling me thats fair but to stop that i can't place a linbacker in run support sounds kinda like a slaughter to me...even with a fast looper its hard to catch a rb who just plows the line with his lead blocker. just my 2 cents since i had a few pennies extra this month.

Look If Stacking Is Working For Me Against U I'm Not Going To Stop stacking Because U Think That It's Wrong,But I Will Stop If U Start Throwing The Ball, Or Sweeping.I'm Trying To Tell U Man There Are Players & Then There Are Coaches It's A Big Defference Between The Two.Personally I Hate Stacking,But If Stacking Is Your Thing, I will Not Try To Stop U From Playing The Way That U Feel Gives Your Team The Best Chance To Win.Open Up Your Mind & Your Game Will Follow.

[Reginald Rutledge]

there is never a beef on my part with what you're talking about. We good friends which I appreciate. We just don't agree here.

Disclaimer: Please do not read if you are not wanting to tolerate long-winded post on Shootout strategies.

These rules under the Shootout system allows for a person to run the ball too. Whether it is a blast play, power dive, or quick toss, the rules are set up to allow for stacking and no stacking.

I can tell you that here in the DFW, we have 1800 yard rushers over a 12 game season but we have great defenses that stop those great runners. But because how the system is set up, it takes coaches who have great play calling, the ability to REALLY throw the ball (not just a dink and dunk) with consistency, and the creativity to exploit the other team weakness to be good at this style of play.

This system was purposely set up for scoring. That's why the offense has a 3-1 movement ratio. Only the good teams know how to keep a great offensive team from putting up big numbers.

But one of the reasons this system work is because of the stacking. If the defense stacks 8 in the box, and I audible from the I to the pro set with the backs going around either end, I put the D at a huge disadvantage either as a run or pass. I dictate what the defense has to do to stop me! But if you have no ability to pass the ball, you will be stopped. That's usually when people complain about the run or the pass; when they have not figured out the nuances of the system. That's why I tell people learn to throw the ball with confidence, proficiency, and accuracy because in this style of play, your weaknesses will be exposed.

For 13 years in the DFW League, this system has worked to perfection. We've always been willing to tweak rules if we felt they were in the best interest of the league. But to a man, they will tell you that they want you to stack 10 in a row! It's suicidal for the defense because the audible allows you to exploit those type of one-on-one situations. So what if you have to pass to matriculate the ball, it still adds up as 7!

I really do want you to still come down to Texas and watch us play under this style. You will see why these guys here are like crack addicts about the style. All of these guys are skilled passers that if you do pile 9 in the box, you will pay unmercifully for that. It's just a matter of time before that other team looks up at the half and see 35 points scored on them.

The question I have is "How good is your ability to pass the ball?" Truthfully? Because if you are passing at a 0-20% rate, you will never win in this style. If you pass at 20-40%, you will be competitive sometimes. If you can pass at 40-50%, you will make the playoffs. If you pass 50-60%, you will be a contender. If you go pass that, you are championship material.

I think Bluesman brings up a GREAT point. Is it okay that you can run 3-1 on offense but not stack on defense? Answer, no! But because each team has that opportunity to do that, it balances out. These are little opportunities for offensive progression. The rules have worked for 34 years and the excitement they bring tells us not much tweaking needs to be done. Trust me, in this style of play, the defense is at more of a disadvantage than the offense ever will. But that's okay because it makes you creative as an offensive coach and resourceful as a defensive coach. It's done us proud for 13 years and those that go through the growing pains of learning how to play under this style love what it does.

I am not here to force this style on you and I always say, if you're not happy in something, you probably should not play in it because you will not be happy doing it. But I know you are a bright mind and I think if you came to Texas to see what happens here, it may change your thinking. When I come to LA, let's spend some time together (along with Michael Robertson) and we will show you so many tricks to the madness.

Sorry for the long post.

Reg

[Anthony D Burgess]

Originally Posted by marty t

bluesman, i'm not talking about the stacking in our league laefl we only stack behind the nose tackle only. but soon might be voted out to further the excitement and fun. i'm talking about all the other stack leagues that might wanna go play in that stack the whole team, you can't possibly tell me that's fun. we changed some rules you might don't know about. it will be an even match since your runners has to be 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage and inside the tackles and the linebackers has to be 5 yards back off the defensive line also or in the gaps. they can be behind a player if he's 5 yards back and has to run up. that gives both teams a 50/50 chance of making a play. so it's a race to the line or the defense can play the gaps but the runners still has to be 5 yards back just like the nfl. big lock i hear you man but at 4.0 you really should stop stacking cause you only playing bully ball. we use itz's or any base. that ain't the issue it's all about the stack bull rush let the individual player make plays why do they need help. i can see if they play the gap or be 5 yards back then that is fine but directly behind on offense and defense you creation a traffic jam. yeah there are players and there are coaches, then let the individual players play their positions and let the best coaching come out to win the game not a bunch of bulldoggs coming to gather up and sit in one spot all day to see who is stronger than the other. playing stack you will never see really what your team or individual players is made of. i see you all still want to play bully ball and try to sneak an run in here and there, i ain't mad at you but pass 100% of the time then to me that ain't real coachin that is lack of play inginuity. that's cool

There are a lot of people out side of this hobby that view this as a rugby game because that is what it looks like.

Football players are intelligent athletes being able to REACT based on what takes place on the field durring the action. This is the missing element in the hobby.

Passing, running, thinking, intelligents, speed, strength, clock management, move and counter move. 11 individuals doing there jobs at there position, SS not letting anyone get behind them, DB's on either inside leverage or outside leverage running with the WR's.

RB's able to read the blocks of there linemen and cut back, LB's being able to to play there position and run from side line to side line

The defense having a right to make a play on the ball when it's in the air, that is there right.

Winning should be based on what you know about the game, how you're players execute the play, the chooice you make, and how you're team gets it done when the board is on,......not on how well YOU can use a tool when the board is off, and not on the stronger and faster team.

[ajahaana]

Originally Posted by bluesman280

ok ..i might get blasted but who cares..... since your whining about defensive stacking.. are you also willing to stop playing with offensive stacking? when people run the ball what do most do ?? run a running back with a lead blocker behind a o linemen...hmmm 3 to 1 ratio offence advantage. So your telling me thats fair but to stop that i can't place a linbacker in run support sounds kinda like a slaughter to me...even with a fast looper its hard to catch a rb who just plows the line with his lead blocker. just my 2 cents since i had a few pennies extra this month.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT U AINT GOT NO STATS1 UR LIKE AN EXWIFE WITH AN OPINION!! KEEP TALKIN