Scale question

[Rock Solid]

Coaches,

When a base or figure is weighted, what is the acceptable wieght on the scale for the number accepted in your league.
Let's say that the weight for the item is 2.2, and you have a scale that only weighs 2.2, than 2.3 would be over. Now if you have a scale that gives a closer measurement like 2.21 or 2.27 then how will your league measure the base ?
Do you have a standard scale ? Some scales can measure very, very small differences.
If you have a standard scale that measures only to 2.2, what happens if you get to the game and the scale being used is more accurate and you now have to cut to make weight?
The two questions are:

Do you use a standardized scale in your league or tournament ?
Which is the following is used to determine overweight if using a more defined scale ?

2.25>>
>>>2.25
>>>2.256
2.26
2.21
2.20
2.29

With new bases being used, it takes time to weigh them in and then it is tough to see your bases cut up when you could prepare them in advance. It slows down the check in process at tournaments.

RS

[NATIONAL]

and not that extra measurement. I would say you need to check with that tournament's host to find out what scale he will use in the check in process.

Nat'l

[Rock Solid]

Do YOU use a scale ?

How accurate is your scale ?

When you play in a league is there a standard scale measurement for all ? or can someone bring a scientific scale and make more accurate measurements ?

Is there a scale available on the market for a reasonable price that is sort of the standard ?

RS

I used to have a scale but my 250 kinda put it into early retirement!!! Probably NOT a good idea to sit on your scale!?!?!?!?! :rolleyes:

I think everyone should have a scale that measures to the hundredths. At The SWB, we agreed that 3.21 was over, and subsequently 3.31 when we allowed P/L TTCs and the newer convention-colored TTCs from Miggle.

But that still meant the figures alone had to be 2.00 or less (2.01 was over) and each base type had its own maximum i.e. .08, .09, 1.00 and 1.30.

[detroitchild]

...what brand/make/model scale do some of you guys use or recommend AND where do you get them from?

[Geno H]

Our league uses "to the tenth" scale or 3.3 for example. The problem with hundreth scales is they can vary as much as 3-4 hundreths from each other.
I think one is splitting hairs when it comes to hundreths of a gram. If your personal hundreth scale happens to be the one being used for check in then it seems easy to check in. If you have spent months tweaking, practicing, playing in a league with your team only to go to a Play-off or Tournament and have to hack your base up to make weight to the hundreth it just seems a bit to picky. Many other variances come into play before a couple of hundreths. Just my opinion.


Geno H

[Rock Solid]

I think if we talk so much about weight issues, we are in a way sort of like weight watchers. :-)

I agree with Geno. In the three inexpensive scales I purchased, I have a two hair splitting scales. They are both a bit off. The third one I have seems to go between lets say 1.2 and 1.3 and then settles at 1.2. I figure if the weight is 1.2 acceptable then it is ok. Now to go to a tournament, or play in a league for the season and go to a playoff and meet up with a real professional scientific scale and find out you have been playing over weight by .01 or .06 and have to cut is a bit nutty.
I think just about all coaches want to play with equal standards. So what is viewed as acceptable ?

A very expensive scientific scale or one you can get on ebay that weighs 1.2 and that's it ?

I am trying to make things simple for me but I can make a mountain out of trying to meet the standards. I have been at a few weigh in's where the different weigh in spots had different scales. That is why I ask.

Now I need to attend to my own weight. Too much low fat yogurt and no salt rice cakes last night. Boy did I overdo it. Off to the gym before it settles in.
I will bring a few of those suspect bases with me and see if I can cut a few hundredths off as I work out.

I have not been anywhere since I have been in the hobby where weight has been used to make for anything but fair play. This is purely a scale question.

RS

Here's the one I am buying to replace the one I squished in Virginia last summer!

http://www.wholesale-scales.com/inde...40ef33b024052d

Or...

MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THE SAME ONE, SO THERE'S NO DISCREPANCIES AT TOURNAMENTS???

The reason we split hairs at tourneys, is because of simple math, Gentlemen. On a tenth scale, 3.3g doesn't turn into 3.4g until it reaches 3.35g or more. THAT is .05g over the limit of 3.300. Over is over, and being over is not fair to everyone else that came in at 3.3000.

Granted I would love to see the 2 different weight classes at more events, 3.5g and 4.5g, (<<<=== I just started another war!!! ), but for now 3.300 is the limit.

[Michigan Joe]

OK Jimbo I'm going to give you a hard time on this one!

a hundredth of a gram? Now that must be a SERIOUS tournament with some serious stakes. Heck, we didn't even have our teams checked at Miggle.

A potential error on a typical .1g scale could result in the POSSIBILITY of ~0.04g weight inclusion beyond the max weight limit of the tournament. 0.04g is 1.2% of the total weight of a 3.3 figure. Might I add that if you were to be that picky about weight and needed the .01 gram scale that you should also buy the calibration weight as well (which is not included in the normal price). Or you could just buy some figures and decals.

I've seen top notch miniature football action over the past year and I can say quite confidently that no portion of this game is as precise as 0.01g so I wouldn't worry too much about feeling like anyone is cheated if you check things with a cheaper 0.1g scale.

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by JIMBO

Here's the one I am buying to replace the one I squished in Virginia last summer!

http://www.wholesale-scales.com/inde...40ef33b024052d

Or...

MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THE SAME ONE, SO THERE'S NO DISCREPANCIES AT TOURNAMENTS???

The reason we split hairs at tourneys, is because of simple math, Gentlemen. On a tenth scale, 3.3g doesn't turn into 3.4g until it reaches 3.35g or more. THAT is .05g over the limit of 3.300. Over is over, and being over is not fair to everyone else that came in at 3.3000.

Granted I would love to see the 2 different weight classes at more events, 3.5g and 4.5g, (<<<=== I just started another war!!! ), but for now 3.300 is the limit.

Jimbo,
I understand math and how the tenth gram scale works. But splitting hairs is splitting hairs. You still missed the point that there is a 3 to 4 hundreths difference between hundreths scales. Therefore you are subject to still being considered over EVEN if you weigh at home with a hundreth scale. As good of a coach as you are you know that 4 hundreths of a gram will not cause you to lose.


Geno H