General Passing Question #2

[KTown49er]

Originally Posted by TheTweakFreak

TomKat - If I read your method correctly, I tried it. Hopefully I followed the directions in the desired manor. From what I understand it looks and feels very much like the NHFL ATTAC passing method but with a reverse twist. I.E., instead of throwing an accurate pass first (hitting the ATTAC passing target before going to the ball), you have the receiver and defenders react to the planned route. If the receiver hits the ball the O coach then has to hit the target (an accurate pass). If a defender hits the ball then the D coach attempts the pass.

I have a similar twist yet slightly different.

When I have an open receiver to lead, I set up a passing target. If I hit the target with the TDQ then I get to use the shortest lead passing stick. So, the receiver still has to run to the ball. But if you make a good pass, and you use the shortest stick, your odds of completion are higher.

However, if I miss the target, the receiver still has a chance to make a play. But you have to use the longest lead stick, which makes it tougher to complete.

So you are rewarded for making accurrate passes but in both cases you still let the receiver (and defender) make a play on the ball.

Think about it....in real football, QB's make good throws and bad throws but in ALL cases, the receivers and defenders continue to make a play regardless of how accurrate the pass is. The better the pass....the better the chance to make a play....which is what I have created.

Just my version of how to do it.

(in case anyone was interested in my opinion....which you probably aren't!!)

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by KTown49er

I have a similar twist yet slightly different.

When I have an open receiver to lead, I set up a passing target. If I hit the target with the TDQ then I get to use the shortest lead passing stick. So, the receiver still has to run to the ball. But if you make a good pass, and you use the shortest stick, your odds of completion are higher.

However, if I miss the target, the receiver still has a chance to make a play. But you have to use the longest lead stick, which makes it tougher to complete.

So you are rewarded for making accurrate passes but in both cases you still let the receiver (and defender) make a play on the ball.

Think about it....in real football, QB's make good throws and bad throws but in ALL cases, the receivers and defenders continue to make a play regardless of how accurrate the pass is. The better the pass....the better the chance to make a play....which is what I have created.

Just my version of how to do it.

(in case anyone was interested in my opinion....which you probably aren't!!)

Ktown,
I find that a very realistic look on passing. Sometimes a bad pass can be caught by a tremendous effort from the reciever. Great job well thought out!


Geno H

[WEIRDWOLF]

Originally Posted by Geno H

Ktown,
I find that a very realistic look on passing. Sometimes a bad pass can be caught by a tremendous effort from the reciever. Great job well thought out!


Geno H

Geno, TAEFL rule??? I like it also.

[HOOP]

Originally Posted by KTown49er

I have a similar twist yet slightly different.

When I have an open receiver to lead, I set up a passing target. If I hit the target with the TDQ then I get to use the shortest lead passing stick. So, the receiver still has to run to the ball. But if you make a good pass, and you use the shortest stick, your odds of completion are higher.

However, if I miss the target, the receiver still has a chance to make a play. But you have to use the longest lead stick, which makes it tougher to complete.

So you are rewarded for making accurrate passes but in both cases you still let the receiver (and defender) make a play on the ball.

Think about it....in real football, QB's make good throws and bad throws but in ALL cases, the receivers and defenders continue to make a play regardless of how accurrate the pass is. The better the pass....the better the chance to make a play....which is what I have created.

Just my version of how to do it.

(in case anyone was interested in my opinion....which you probably aren't!!)

Hmmm. I think i like that alot. i was fooling around with something where if you hit the target and it spins up field, you can reposition the wr. if it spins backwards against the route of the wr, then the play is stopped there, to simulate a bad pass that is caught, but the wr has no time to advance.

but i like your style in theory much better. i think i will try that.

[KTown49er]

Thanks guys....

Always nice to get props from the community!!

That is what I love that the most about this board. It gives us a place to share ideas and create new ones by collaborating and discussion.

I've taken away so much from the board already....glad I could finally contribute!!

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by WEIRDWOLF

Geno, TAEFL rule??? I like it also.

Wolf,
Yep....thats what I was thinking.......


Geno H

[Norbert Revels]

Originally Posted by KTown49er

I have a similar twist yet slightly different.

When I have an open receiver to lead, I set up a passing target. If I hit the target with the TDQ then I get to use the shortest lead passing stick. So, the receiver still has to run to the ball. But if you make a good pass, and you use the shortest stick, your odds of completion are higher.

However, if I miss the target, the receiver still has a chance to make a play. But you have to use the longest lead stick, which makes it tougher to complete.

So you are rewarded for making accurrate passes but in both cases you still let the receiver (and defender) make a play on the ball.

Think about it....in real football, QB's make good throws and bad throws but in ALL cases, the receivers and defenders continue to make a play regardless of how accurrate the pass is. The better the pass....the better the chance to make a play....which is what I have created.

Just my version of how to do it.

(in case anyone was interested in my opinion....which you probably aren't!!)

I like this idea bigtime, and will be using it in my college solitare league, thank you for sharing this.

Norbert Revels

[MplsTom]

I like the idea...very innovative.

One twist that could be interesting is that you could say that if you missed the target on the throw and had to run to the stick that the ball would be set out straight toward the goal line. This could end up being closer to the defender but it would be subjective and consistent.

What that does is eliminate the "shield" that guys do to prevent the defender from catching the ball. They angle it precisely so the defender has to go through the receiver, etc.

[Coach Rip]

Before anyone gets their undies all wadded up, I am just asking a question so I can understand how this intriguing way of passing works.

I have a question for ktowner, ............. I like the idea too, ..................but how do you determine where to put the target?

If you hit the target, ..............do you move the receiver closer to the target/ball or move the target/ball closer to the receiver?

[KTown49er]

Originally Posted by Coach Rip

Before anyone gets their undies all wadded up, I am just asking a question so I can understand how this intriguing way of passing works.

I have a question for ktowner, ............. I like the idea too, ..................but how do you determine where to put the target?

If you hit the target, ..............do you move the receiver closer to the target/ball or move the target/ball closer to the receiver?

I'll do a seperate post to expand on other things I do in passing but when leading a receiver I place the target out in front of the WR using the small passing stick distance to the spot where I intend to throw to. I basically place the target to the spot I want to literally lead the WR to considering an accurrate pass. If I hit the target, I place the ball exactly where the target was. I adjust my player (and defense), turn the board on and have my WR (and his defender) make a play to it.

If I miss the target, I use the longer passing stick to establish a new spot of the ball (since it was a poor pass). I use the same angle and starting point, but use a longer stick.

Now the player has a lot further to go to make the play....but he has a chance. It also gives the defender more of an opportunity to make a play. Or it gives a safety more of a chance to come over and make a play. Again, all because of a poor (inaccurate) pass.

Now....when playing on a 620 or a big board, you will need to determine the 2 distances that fit your board the best. I use the short and middle distance sticks from Buzzball. I actually started experimenting just doubling the short stick distance on a missed pass (since the middle stick is 3x as long as the short stick). I find the long sticks to be too much on a 620 especially on crossing patterns and in routes. It lets 3-4 defenders come into play which isn't fair or realistic. The 2 sticks I got with the ATTAC passing work well on a 620 but they are smaller than the short and middle sticks from Buzzball and wouldn't create much of a disadvantage for a poorly thrown pass IMO.