Am I the only EF coach who dislike this rule?

[BAXTER]

Hey Tony,

I understand what you are sayin, man. I too agree with you on this, but as you can see I and many others also tend to play unconventional D. If the rules cause for you to play a conventional D, then play conventional. If the rule set allows for the D to be unconventional then take advantage of that flexibilty. All in all, Reg hit the nail on the head when he wrote:

"Don't restrict the game by your play. Restrict the other team by your ability to play and execute. If you execute efficiently, the other team will be trying to create rules to handicap your team's ability".

Please listen to the advice that some of these coaches have provided. The advice provided by coaches like FrustratedFinFan, Jimbo and a few others are right on point. You don't have to like it or agree with it, just adjust to it.

-Adrian-

Fellas,
This is a good post! The BMEFA is currently analyizing this very issue. Back in the day both the Offense and Deffense had to have seven men on the line of scrimmage. Once people learn to tweak their bases and develpoe their teams strengths and weakness the whole spectra of play begin to change.One suggestion from me is to bait the rascle if he doesn't cover your linemen! Adjust their base so that they drop back or curve left or right to form a pocket for your QB. You can set their dials to come in to the center and block for the sweep outside or the romp up the middle. I know how your thinking, but what I'm learning is these guys are serious about these games and our traditional thinking is getting cooked at that line of scrimmage. We have to start thinking out of the box. We have to develope what I call "TRICKERY". Just hang in there and use this to your advantage. One last serious note to everybody. Many have seen an alternate style of play. That style helps to elimanate many of these age old problems we keep coming up with. So buy yourself a big board. Paint up your best teams. Buy yourself some bases and tweak them. Once you've done that, put some weight under those joints and turn your boards up!!! Tron has spoken

[Reginald Rutledge]

As athletes get better, the game evolves. I look at an athlete as the figure plus base = athlete. In the 70's and 80's, the game was definitely restricted to what you had. But as bases became better and players were enhanced, the game changed.

In 2000's, the game has changed even moreso. You are blessed with a wealth of talent pool from ITZs, Diamond Bases, Miggle Bases, to various figures such as ITZ, Miggle, SIW, FF.COM. The key is to create/recruit the type of athlete that makes your team what you want it to be.

My experience tells me that it is not just the base that makes an athlete. It is not just the figure that makes the athlete. It's the combination of the two. The rules dictate how ones team may be created and it determines the type of restrictions you may put on your athlete. It also creates an opportunity for specialist, meaning athletes who are designed specifically to combat strong onrushing linemen. Or speed rushers who are naturally leaning in and combined with a certain base may cause major disruptions to the other team.

Now, with such innovation and creativity for defensive and offensive schemes, I think your leauges should never limit or restrict itself to the nonegagement of trickery and deception. It just takes your game to another level. It forces you to be creative which in turn keeps the game interesting.

So embrace the evolution of your league and take heed to rules that work. SweetKA (Ken Allen) made an interesting point about the traveling people in his league wanting to come and not just compete but to also learn.

There are things that I learned at the BAMA Blast when I played there that I still incorporate into the DFW League. There are things that I learned in the Alamo City EFL, and the MWEFL, and at the Seawall Brawl that can be of benefit to us eveolving the game here in the DFW League.

I hope Brian Healey is reading this post because I need his help in the area of speed. I know some things but want to learn everything. Healey's got information which could help us eveolve the game in the DFW area.

So, my point is to heed what guys are saying. PM some who you think are willing to show you things that may make that other team want to change rules to stop your efficiency.

Good topic Tony! Keep that passion.
Reg

[childslovegame]

Mr. Michigan,

That's one of the draw backs in playing the one stop, pitch, pass or run in today's Electric Football. If you examine closely all rule sets around the country, you will discover that there's really no major change in style of play. One stoppage and go! Players both offensively and defensively cannot REACT to what's happening on the field after the snap of the ball! They have to be in perfect position before the snap.

MARK MY PERDICTIONS:

Figures on a Swivel and the Multi-Stop System is the future of Electric Football!

There are too many guys in Electric Football who have a Football Mind in terms of X's and O's who feel restricted by the rule set with the One-Stop Pitch or Pass. Do you know that there are people coming back into our hobby after seeing the One-Stop and the Muti-Stop are choosing the Multi-Stop System of play? It's more fun, more hands-on, more cerebral!

So, Mr.Michigan, don't feel you're all alone. There are others who feel your pain. Your day will come!

Smitty

Looking at this from an historic POV: Didn't the British Army lineup in straight lines and only fire when their commanding officer gave the order? And didn't they get spanked by the Revolutionaries trained in (French) Guerrilla warfare - ambushes and traps and TRICKERY!?!?!?!?!?!

Don't get me wrong, I do like ya dude and still think one of my Top 10 best games was against your Georgia BULLDOGS at AJ's College Tourney #2 or #3. Remember our triple OT? Or was it quadruple? So I know you have game. That's why I don't get all the whining. Bring your "A" game and leave the drama for all the baby mamas! Besides all the stuff your (our) leaguemates are throwing at you, you'll be more than able to play well, unless you want us to play for you too!?!

[Anthony D Burgess]

This is not the first time I have heard this type of question .

To help you must answer the age old question on how do you want to play this game ?

There is street football , flag , arena , and pro . All were birthed from pro football . but have been altered to fit a type of style . Many times the style may be good in some areas , and very bad in others .

Pro football fits into the mold of pro ball , but street , arena , and flag don't fit into that mold . You don't pull a flag in real football to make a tackle , you don't play 22 men on a arena football field . I'm sure you get the point by now .

So however you play , you play within that style , and if you don't like that then either you adjust to it or move on to another style that fits what and how you want to play .

You can't apply real football know how to a style that is not based on real football . ( Not downing other styles ) just want to bring out a point . If you want chicken then why are you fishing ? Go to KFC !

[Anthony D Burgess]

Smitty is 100% right on this .

Originally Posted by childslovegame

Mr. Michigan,

That's one of the draw backs in playing the one stop, pitch, pass or run in today's Electric Football. If you examine closely all rule sets around the country, you will discover that there's really no major change in style of play. One stoppage and go! Players both offensively and defensively cannot REACT to what's happening on the field after the snap of the ball! They have to be in perfect position before the snap.

MARK MY PERDICTIONS:

Figures on a Swivel and the Multi-Stop System is the future of Electric Football!

There are too many guys in Electric Football who have a Football Mind in terms of X's and O's who feel restricted by the rule set with the One-Stop Pitch or Pass. Do you know that there are people coming back into our hobby after seeing the One-Stop and the Muti-Stop are choosing the Multi-Stop System of play? It's more fun, more hands-on, more cerebral!

So, Mr.Michigan, don't feel you're all alone. There are others who feel your pain. Your day will come!

Smitty

[artlax]

If you can train those backs correctly they can be angled to chip block on those outside rushers 0 knocking them off their path and then slide free to become receivers - similar to screens.

TE's can be used in a similar manner.

Also - a circle route with your backs or even a wheel route.

[jimmie]

I have never like these rules about how many dl to have come on if I want to rush 7 so what handle it.One of the problems why I havent played in a league in years is that the rules dont really make sense!! To me is always been a problem!! Just my 2 cents!!

1. No more than 11 players are allowed on the field after the Defensive Coach says "set." (Offense choice of 5yds or result of play)
2. All defenders must maintain at least a one yard neutral zone - base and body - from the LOS. (Offense choice of 5yds or result of play)

Whatever style is played, these 2 would cover them all, I think. Stack, 2-man DL, 10-1, whatever YOU wanna do on D is YOUR prerogative.

And no magnets allowed on metal fields to hold your guys in place unless it's a Penalty when the other team runs into you.