Ironman Tournament/League Format???

[ki6ds]

I am a newbie so forgive me if this has been brought up before. Has anyone ever thought of a league/tournament played with only 11 players? In other words, NO substitions allowed.. Everyone plays both ways. I can see some advantages:

1. Faster play, you don't have to place and pull players.
2. Cheaper, you only need 11 figures and 11 bases.
3. Fewer Player characteristics to memorize.

Disadvantage:
1. What do you do if both teams are the same color?
2. Can't have specialized players for situations, i.e. loopers etc.

I am sure that there are more advantages/disadvantages out there. I am throwing this out for discussion which seems to be very popular on this board, grin. The reason I thought of this was because in high school, my football team played 8 man football. We had a center, 2 guards, 2 ends, and 3 backs. Backs and ends were eligible. It so happened that all 8 starters played the whole game both ways unless someone got hurt or it was a runaway game one way or the other. The 3 subs were freshmen, and none of them weighed more than 105 pounds. We went 7 - 1. Doug

[mark robin]

it used to come up. but it has been a while since i brought it up. its a neat idea to "go back to how we played as kids", but for the most part, people have moved beyond ironman. i know in many of my league games i would show up with 14 or 15 players , other coaches thought i was crazy for not having at least 22 men on my team. well, i had way more than 22, i just prefferred to play with less. -less is more-. in 4 seasons, i only lost 2 games.

i think in the future, some tournaments will have an ironman division. a lot of us solitaire players stick with ironman teams, i know i usually try to only allow 13 or 14 players eligable in my solitaire games, gotta keep it fair.

[Orleanian In Exile]

I've gone ironman for my own solo EF/MF setup to maximise my investment in figures. I have enough for at least 13 teams at this stage. Most economical.

[styx]

this is a good idea ,have a iron man tourney at the mfca convention this year in canton,under what rule set though.

[eflfanatic]

Could be done. Just play under the Original Tudor Rules with only original figures and bases. NO WEIGHT ADDED.

[mark robin]

i love the "original tudor rules idea". great thinking.

[styx]

count me in. HAVNT PLAYED UNDER ORIGINAL MIGGLE RULES SINCE I WAS A KID ,U MIGHT HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY A LITTLE CHRIS. im me buddy.

[eflfanatic]

I was thinking rules from the 68/69 or 70/71 rule book that game with the model 500 series games.

[styx]

tackling was any touch, passing was a toughy,was it evencomplete if you hit him on a bounce,or was that pre 70's,someone with a early rulebook please refresh my memory,for original bases ,are u talking original miggle rookies with the single clip and just miggle fab 5 men.

[eflfanatic]

These are scans from some of my Original Tudor Rule Books, Copyrighted 1968/69 and 1970/71