Can the hobby survive with no NFL Teams!!

[jimmie]

Coaches miggle no longer has NFL teams can a hobby like this survive with the NFL??Since I was a kid this game is about the NFL yes you can college Arena football or CFL but come on this game is about pro football always has and will always be.Many of us can paint are teams no problem but what about the guys who are just getting back into it or want to!!Many have look at the miggle situation as miggles thing but really it also affects us as well.Electric football is about pro football for sure!!Can we do withoutthe NFL hell no!!What you think??

[Franny-j-boy]

As long as this hobby has these kind of people in it the N.F.L electric football world will be fine. I love just the N.F.L as well, and as long as this hobby has the talent it has in every catagory like I've seen thus far everything will be fine as far as I'm concerned. I've never been more excited...
Frank Jacobs

[O-schemer]

I think it will survive, but it will never be the same. This may be a good thing. Sales will probably go up in the Southern region of the country because college football rules down here. However, sales (for Miggle) will probably go down in the North and the Midwest because pro football is loved in those areas.

A lot of us paint our own teams, which probably hurts Miggle quite a bit, mainly because they no longer have a monopoly on paintable figures. It wouldn't hurt them if we still bought their figures, but we get them from Buzzball, FF.com, and any other source we can find.

[Coach_J]

I think it can survive without the NFL teams but it will definitely put a real strain on the hobby. I am concerned about the new coaches who come to the hobby only to learn that NFL teams are no longer available. I have heard rumors that there will be a new manufacturer putting out NFL teams in the future. The problem is WHEN will that be and until then we could lose some new coaches. As "O-schemer" said in the previous response it just won't be the same.

Coach_J

[Anthony D Burgess]

If you were to sit down and put some honest thought to it you will find out that it is about the game of football first , and the NFL , CFL , College , etc second .

For the most part we are playing or trying to play football with miniature figures .

What we love is to see the action unfold infront of us and all the hard work we put into working on our team to stand above the other team .

Lets not forget that this is a football game first . The future of this hobby rest in how the game is represented , and viewed by otheres . When we put what we think will work , or like over what is actual football then we are hurt the hobby .

Will The Real Football Hobby Please stand Up ? That is the all important question that has never been answered .

Survival , the future of this hobby is in our past and if we don't learn from it then we will repeat it . Boards size has changed , figures , decals , face mask , but the thing that remains the same could be what hurts the hobby .

If your able to see the NFL Network and see the coaches tape as they breake down a play then you will understand .

The Future of this hobby will come down to actual football , not who we like , not what we think , but the reflection of the game seen throught the eyes of the future .

What the hell are you talking about?......... How did you get so far off track?

I'm not feeling you B! Not at ALL son!
What's up miniature community i'm John Blaze. Glad to be here? Who is this guy and can someone please explain to me what the hell he's talking about? The hobbie needs NFL representation! Casual players do not want to pay for decaled teams. WE WANT NFL TEAMS FOR LESS THEN $10. I'm not giving my son, who loves to play the game, a team greater then $10. He loves the game and hobbie but will break a player in a heart beat without any sense of true value. Thats what kids do and we forget that this is what this game is. A CHILDS GAME THAT ADULTS HAVE LET TO LET GO!

Johnny_Blaze!

[Coach_J]

Hi Johnny_Blaze,

Greetings to you my friend. My name is John but I am better known in the EF community as Coach_J. I noticed that this is your first post so let me say welcome to the hobby and the chatboard.

Where do live ? The reason I am asking is because there might be coaches in your area who you can get together with. By the way I just sent you a Private Message so please respond to it when you can.

Have a good day and again welcome to the hobby and the chatboard.

John aka Coach_J

I believe that EFL will survive. The issue hopefully will not be one of economics. New coaches may desire to become involved, but at what price. If the price tag on teams and game boards accelerate, new coaches may refrain from entering into EFL. The cost of these items may result in existing coaches refraining from staying active in EFL.

For the better of the EFL, all coaches should press toward keeping the cost and price tags of these items at reasonable levels.

Hopefully, the EFL will not become similar to MLB.

From Day One I have always advised new people to JOIN their local leagues for various reasons, but in the wake of this event (an alternative IS coming!), becoming someone's leaguemate entitles you to (A)knowledge, (B)discounted paint jobs, (C)experience and (D)a you-can-do-it-yourself attitude!

Back in '97, when I FINALLY became part of the Internet wave (on my Sega Dreamcast, no doubt!) I did a search for "electric football", found Miggle's 1st Chatboard and using a joystick typing one letter at a time, I joined the Miggle family. I then received the 1st Issue of Plugged In and that is where I found Frank, Edgar and Terry. I called them, visited them (after painting some VIKINGS with nail polish!), was enlightened by the Strategy Divider and the TTQB, and soon afterwards joined the MWEFL.

Now I paint, decal, tweak, and counsel new coaches as well as seasoned vets on a daily basis. I have pimped teams for leaguemates for FREE and I have charged pennies for others (relative to the time and detail I put into my teams!) NFL, College, ARENA, whatever.

And with this new MFCA, I'm sure as a member, discounts on pimped teams are part of the deal. ESPECIALLY for new coaches.

I am willing to at least pimp out a team for a new coach for pennies-on-the-dollar ONCE. Then, once they're hooked, after I drop the bomb of "what it's really worth" then the next 100 calls are "how do you do...???" Ask Ronnie B.!!!

So...to answer THE question...WE will survive this phase of EF and we should welcome in the Next Generation of "miniatures...???"

[rjackson]

....without stamped NFL teams. Like Jimbo said we as a whole can help the newbie’s get their teams together with a collaboration of ways. Miggle is still in business with the college outfit and the pro-side will continue with the MFCA.

BTW it is still teams on EBAY for sale for anyone that doesn't want to expand their hobby experience by painting their own squad. I for one never liked Miggle or Tudor's teams because the logos weren't right and the uniforms sucked.

Nothing against the company but I’d rather paint, decal my own team and enjoy the satisfaction of doing a great looking team, or criticize myself for making my team look like $%^&. Then you won't have to hear, "Well I just got my team from Miggle and the uniform logos or off centered, or the paints stripe is too long," or any other complaint we have heard in the community. With all the decalers in the hobby and the abundance of paint selections, a rookie coming into the hobby can get his or her team looking better then some of the production teams.

In time he or she will be able to put together a team and feel like they have accomplished a feat in their hobby and will gain a better satisfaction for the hobby. With all this said the hobby will survive without NFL teams.