FIELD GOALS LIKE WOLFS ROUTE RUNNING IDEA

[mantaraydre]

COACHES,

I have been experimenting running in field goals like wolfs route running idea for the convention.

Place the field goal (two plastic or woods yellow strips) on the back wall of the end zone. The normal width apart as the standard mf field goal.

develop the straightest base you can find to run the ball in from the line of scrim if you are held to a field goal. Try from the 20, 33, 38 45 just like you would kick a normal field goal.

like the mpfl, weight the base a little and place the floating football on top of the base. when the board is turned on the ball is in the air.

believe it or not this is much harder than kicking the standard field goal with a kicker. THAT BASE CAN VEER OF COARSE AT ANY GIVEN SECOND.

THE KEY IS TO GET BETWEEN THE TWO STRIPS BEFORE IT VEER'S (LIKE THE BILL'S SCOTT NOR-WIDE)

Ofcoarse, the shorter the attempt (from the 10 yard line or 15 or so) the better your chances. Try to run that base from the 40 yard line (deep trouble) BUT THAT'S THE FUN PART OF IT


TO BLOCK THE FIELD GOAL- The defense sets up 2 gunners to run side by side with the BASE/FOOTBALL ATTEMPT. If any of those gunners beat the base/FOOTBALL to the 5 yard line, the board stops and the gunner can be turned and angled at the base/football to knock it off coarse for the block.

it's fun to see and works well


MANTARAYDRE

[Orleanian In Exile]

Another possible experiment is to set up your teams for FG attempt, lined up as standard, but with a gap in the middle to run the floating football through. The ball starts from the point at which you have a stationary kicker set up, of course. Any defensive player contacting the base of the floating football blocks the kick.

You'd want a straight, fast base for this, but even with a base that tends to curve slightly, this could work —a soccer-style kick.

The floating football could also be mounted on a wire slightly higher than the crossbar height and also bent slightly forward, so as to "thread" it through actual goalposts. If it hits the uprights, the kick is no good.

Perhaps this could also be adapted as an alternate passing method as well...

[Orleanian In Exile]

Another idea —a one-stop FG attempt: set your teams up on the LOS as usual and turn the board on for 5 seconds. If a defensive player breaks through to contact the stationary kicker or is completely blocking his line-of-sight, or the offensive line is pushed back into contact with the kicker and holder (as with the push rule for QBs on the option), the kick is blocked. If not, place the floating football on the field on or just ahead of the line (in the clear) and turn the board back on. Play runs until the ball either threads the uprights or veers off for a no-good kick.

I may try this myself.

[mantaraydre]

EXILE,


EXCELLENT IDEAS YOU HAVE BROUGHT FORTH. I WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THESE


THANX
MANTARAYDRE

[Orleanian In Exile]

This could revolutionise the onsides kick as well —a ball mounted flush on a free-running weighted base and placed on field on a slant-angle for the kick and you just let the play run.

[mantaraydre]

EXILE,

That will be an interesting on sider once it is all ironed.


trying to also figure a punting scenarios.

**It is actually pretty cool seing the ball mounted on a base without a player

The football can be bigger than the norm since it is mounted. I found these nice fooballs from a toy game

I like what im seeing

Mantaraydre

[Orleanian In Exile]

I was thinking about punting possibilities as well. Again, a one-stop situation: board turned on for five seconds and if a defensive player breaks through to make contact with the stationary punter, the kick is blocked. If not, the floating football can be placed on the field and the play run with your receivers angled to intercept it for the catch. The ball can veer off toward the sidelines, pass the receiver, or fall down, which of course downs the ball dead on field. For a situation in which the ball passes the receiver, spot the ball around 15 yards from that point (simulating the bounce/roll) for starting field position on the next drive. If that takes it into the endzone, it's a touchback. And of course, there is room for the fair-catch option.

[Orleanian In Exile]

I can't help thinking about how this concept potentially adds a whole new visual dimension to the game: you get to see the ball in the air as the play is actually unfolding. Plus, there's now the uncertainty factor inherent in a free-traveling ball on the board, which could veer or fall over and bust up a FG attempt, punt, or pass.

[mantaraydre]

leans in x


i am glad you enjoy this possibility as i do. it does bring a different excitement to the game. With the kicker the ball is kicked so fast you dont see anything. Sometime it is unclear if the kick was good or not. In this situation there will be sheer drama as the base/ball is going downfield for a much need field or extra point. Imagine your heart being in your throat when you start to see it veering left or right. Or, veer left of right the go back to being straight again as the wind took it in.

Another scenario i am looking at is ( focus on the left pole/strip)

1) If the RIGHT FRONT PART OF THE BASE HITS THE LEFT POLE, it hit the upright and landed left of the goal post

2) If the LEFT front part of the base hits the left pole, it hit the upright but went through the goal for a good kick. This being that most of the base is inside of the goal post.

**It still depends because it is unsure how someone will make there goal post. It may be hard to go by just the ball sometime.

***same scenario holds true for the RIGHT pole also ofcourse.

onside kicks

As you stated this could be fun. Angle the base and have it run 10 to 15 yards. it's a footrace to the ball. THE BACK OF THE BASE/FOOTBALL must be 10 or 15 yards downfield. Not the front of the base. You will have to angle you players and time it perfectly to hit the back or side of the base/football after it gets 10 to 15. The receiving team will have and equal op to hit the front of the base/folotball. I would suggest if a onside kick is called. both teams should line up at a equal distance so it is fair who gets the ball. For istance, if the kicking team has to hit the back of the base/football, the receiving team may get a closer shot with the front of the base/football sticking out. A fair line up by both teams must be determined.

ALL IN ALL, i find the exciting. I see some serious heartbreak when that ball veers.

Also, to hold the base/football. I would place it on a magnet as it is done in the mpfl to hold its players. In a field goal situation, if no defender gets to the ball, take it off the magnet and have it go down field for the kick.
The thing is, you must open up the middle somehow for the base/football to run through. I guess move all of the players on each side of the hashmarks.


mantaraydre

[Orleanian In Exile]

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

Also, to hold the base/football. I would place it on a magnet as it is done in the mpfl to hold its players. In a field goal situation, if no defender gets to the ball, take it off the magnet and have it go down field for the kick.
The thing is, you must open up the middle somehow for the base/football to run through. I guess move all of the players on each side of the hashmarks.

Alternatively, you could have a magnet representing the ball in the holding position to act as a target for the defender trying to block the kick. As for the actual travel of the ball, the gap is one possible method. My idea of placing the floating football at a point ahead of the line is based on the theory that the "ball" will already have cleared the line of scrimmage and the back end of the D-line if the kick is actually "launched" and you're not creating an artificial situation with a gap you'd never see in an actual FG kick. Perhaps experiment with both, see which one works best.