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Old 12-22-2007, 05:57 AM
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Could I get some opinions please? What is your choice of base for wide receivers?
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:36 AM
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Shabby,

Here in the DFW League, there is no limit to the type of bases that can be used. Some guys use boat bases, others use single clip rookie bases, others use round bases.

My theory is that the base and the player equates to an athlete. For my athletes, if you look at the type of players that I created, the base plus the player function in harmony. These players were created not only to look like they do what they do in reality but also for the sake of functionality. In a league where cornerbacks are allowed to chuck at the line of scrimmage, some cornerbacks get away with hodlding techniques.

But if you understand how to create/design players to get away from the physical corners, the base can be different variations in nature.

Attached are some pics of my Cowboys receivers. As you will be able to see, Terrell Owens is created with his hands out and low in a "look back" position. You will also notice that he is not close towards the front of the base but more towards the back. The base he is on is a boat base (Gotham) shell with an old Tudor base underneath it. I have a video that shows him skooting down the field in 3 seconds. What happens with him is that a cover corner tries to grab him (if it is an SIW corner) low but TO slides around him and runs up field. With the FF.COM cover corner, the corner slides off the base, turns and run with him. With the Shutdown corner, this corner gets under TO's chin and knocks him over. This is probably the only corner I have seen that can play him straight up on an island.

With Terry Glenn, he looks to be getting ready to jump for one of those fantastic catches. However, if you look closely at the Physics of this player, he is aerodynamical in nature. He has a 2-dimensional look and this contributes to his ability to have great speed. He is on a rookie base. This combination makes him one of the fastest players in the league. He averages 23 yards a catch. He lines up in the slot position on most occasions. He is not the physical beast that Owens is but he is more of a home run threat.

The last, Jason Witten averages 6 catches on my team. He is created in a manner that looks like he's getting ready to gallop up the field. He has one leg up in a violent action pose with his head slightly turned. You would be surprised what altering the original make up of a player can contribute to redefining what a superstar is. He is placed on an old Coleco base painted green. Underneath the base is a single clip rookie base. None of this is noticeable to the naked eye. Witten is often put outside away from the tackle to isolate in one-on-one situations. I know he will slide off the backer because the arm is not exposed. If he slides right, I've got him open on a post route. If he slides inside, I've got him on a slant. What I look for him is about 8-12 yards and he does that just fine.

I have a little "something" I am putting together on Youtube regarding this same topic sort of. You talk about the bases but whenever I figure what base to use, I always think aesthetically as well as functionally.

I hope this was not too much unneeded information.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Bases

Reg, you can never give me too much information! You are so willing to share and help coaches take it to the next level and I want you to know it is appreciated.

One question, I have some of those boat bases, what glue can I use to join the boat shell to the base underneath it?

In my first Frankenstein creation I tried regular super glue, but it did not hold worth a darn. The glue may have been old though, it's been in my garage forever.

Thanks for everything!
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Attn: Coach Shabby, Duro

There is some super glue from Walmart I use called Duro 'super glue". One is in the gel and the other in a liquid. I use the liquid kind. You can get 2 for like $1.56. You may need a catalyst to help speed the sticking process. I know hobby lobby has like a spray-type accelerator which will bond the shell and base together. This accelerator can also be used to speed up bonding custom figures too.

When you do this though, I would make sure I have the type of rookie base that can haul "ARSE". Once you know you've got the right base, then use that stuff.

The glue is cheap but works very well.

Hope this helps!

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Old 12-22-2007, 08:00 AM
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WR Bases,
It's hard to follow Reggie, but I'm determined to share the wealth in this hobby and there's no stopping me. I also know Physics and aero-dy-what-cha-ma-call-it's! Reggie's right about his figures and bases. However, I like my guys to run a route. You can tweak a TTC to shake and juke. You can also get a TTC on a WR to steam roll over a CB/Safety. I like the WR who are blazing like a bat out of hell and can run straight for 100yards.Tweak up some rookie double clips for speed. You know what to do. I just keep placing wr in his position and run the board and watch for the mili second when he breaks loose. Thank "GOD for pass placement, but my TT Passing has gotten better! Tron can hit the long pass! Oh well, forget what I said and listen to Reggie
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:13 PM
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Me, I like to use the boat bases and just like Reggies figures have the arms placed in a position to where the receiver is not "held up" at the los. I like to do a lot of slants that way they cant bump me.
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Old 12-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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I love the polo green rookies.I can make them slide and fast.The only thing in our league they are not very strong.I always use my rookies in the slot on the line I use controls.
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Old 12-22-2007, 10:54 PM
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Old 12-22-2007, 11:57 PM
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I myself love the control base as WR. In our league boat bases are not allowed. I have had good results with TTC. I can make them fast, I also make WR the will zig zag down the field, which makes it very hard for teams safeties to get a good hit on my wr. Another keys aspect of the WR is to make them slide left or right. I look for ones that at the end of the slide they release from the corner and they do it quick.


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Old 12-23-2007, 03:24 AM
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Boat bases are perfect for wide receivers. I think all leagues should allow at least one or two of these per team.....it makes the receivers elusive...like they should be.

After boat bases, I guess I would prefer the new Proline strong rookie bases and the classic R/L bases....the Prolines give good steady performance...speed and some strength. If your league allows you to throw to a receiver in contact, then the Prolines are a good choice. The R/L bases are blazers! However, no strength and some instability, so they can be knocked off a rout easily....but in the open field, they are awesome!
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