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Old 02-14-2008, 10:37 AM
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Where can I get passing sticks, and learn the rules of pass placement? Can anybody give me some info?? Thanks
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:39 AM
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Hello,
Go to MPFL.com and talk to Antonhy Burguess. I can't think of a better source and email descriptions are too long and drawn out.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:48 AM
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Here is the direct link to AB's site
http://www.mpflfootball.com/football...simulation.htm

This was also posted a while back on the Miggle site by Mike Pratt.

PASS SIMULATION METHOD
Once the offensive coach wishes to attempt a pass, the board is then turned off.
The offensive coach then points to and states the player's number to which the pass will be attempted.
The referee will then measure the distance (center of helmet to center of helmet) from the quarterback to the intended receiver You can use a piece of string to measure or a thin piece of balsa wood marked at 20 yards and a full length of 40 yards.

If the distance is 20 yards or less a RED passing stick (6 Yards) be used to spot the ball on the field.
If the distance is 21 to 40 yards a WHITE passing stick (12 Yards)will be used.
If the distance is over 40 yards an BLUE passing stick (18 Yards) will be used.

Once the distance has been determined the offensive coach may pivot the intended receiver only.
The offensive coach now places the appropriate passing stick on the field with one end making base contact with the intended receiver's front portion of the base and between the front corners. The passing stick may be angled in any desired direction from that point so long as the passing stick remains in contact with intended receiver's base as previously described and does not cause the eventual placed ball to make contact with any player. If for some reason the sticks can not be placed flat on the field a tourney official will handle the entire stick and ball placement procedures.

The referee or offensive coach will next place the PS ball on the field so it contacts the opposite end of the passing stick, the closest point of the ball is centered on the end of the stick, and closest point of the ball is facing the quarterback to simulate a spiral pass from his direction.
The defensive coach may now pivot any unengaged players to either make an interception attempt or to make a tackle on the receiver after the catch.

From this point on no players may be pivoted to resolve the play unless the pass is intercepted (see Interception). The referee or offensive coach takes control of the switch and turns the board on until the pass is determined to be caught or incomplete. *NOTE: See Pass Interference Section Below.

Eligible Receiver: Pass Simulation - Initially and at the first stop of the board on a PS attempt, an eligible receiver is any offensive player other than interior lineman and the quarterback that is at least somewhat downfield from the on-field QB, is inbounds, did not run out of bounds during that play, and is unengaged by any of the opponent's player(s).

Catch: After the ball has been placed and the board tuned back on, any player who makes (any) base contact with the ball before the play is over has caught the ball. This means engaged players, unengaged players, legal receivers, and illegal receivers all count except the quarterback.

Completion: Pass Simulation - ANY BASE CONTACT with the ball constitutes a catch for all players. Situations where it is not a clear completion will be treated the same as an unclear passes with the TTQB (incomplete) and treated the same as an unclear tackle with respect to base contact (not a tackle). Additionally, and just as a TTQB pass, the first player to make base contact with the ball has made the catch.

Once a pass is completed to an intended receiver the referee will make the call and remove the placed ball. The ball can be advanced after the catch if that receiver is still unengaged. In such a case the referee will turn the board back on to resolve the play.

A pass is complete if an unintended receiver makes contact with the ball as described above before any other player but the ball can not be advanced and is down at that spot. If this player previously stepped out of bounds or is an offensive lineman it is a penalty for an illegal receiver.

Simultaneous touching of the ball between offensive and defensive players is awarded to the offense as a completion but the ball can not be advanced even if no base contact between those 2 players is made (ball sometimes keeps bases from making contact on simultaneous contact).

Simultaneous touching of the ball between offensive players will result in having the catch awarded to one of the involved offensive players chosen by the offensive coach, with priority in favor of the intended receiver over all others.

Simultaneous touching of the ball between defensive players will be awarded to one of the involved defensive players chosen by the defensive coach.

Simultaneous contact between players from the same team can be advanced so long as the player awarded the catch is an eligible ball carrier (not an OL player or QB).

Incompletion: Pass Simulation - A pass is incomplete once and if any offensive or defensive player's base (any portion) passes the entire placed ball within a radius of a base length around the placed ball. At that point the play is over and it is the next down. The play is still alive until that occurs, no other player has caught the ball, OR 5 seconds has passed since the board was turned back on to resolve the play. After 4 seconds the ball is considered to have hit the ground and is an incomplete pass. If for some reason the quarterback catches the ball it is an incomplete pass.

Interception: Pass Simulation - A pass is intercepted if any player on defense makes contact with the ball as described above before any other player on offense. After an interception the intercepting coach may now pivot the ball carrier only if still unengaged after the catch, followed by the opposing coach pivoting any unengaged players to attempt a tackle. The switch control is given to the referee or coach who threw the interception and the board is turned on to resolve the play.

Pass Interference: Pass Simulation - No unengaged player from either team may be pivoted to obstruct an unengaged opponent player's path to the ball without risking a penalty. Obstructing an unengaged opponent player's path to the ball constitutes pass interference if contact is made during play resolution unless it happens within the base length radius (incidental/free contact area) around the placed ball.
Running into the back of an opponent player's base does not constitute interference under any circumstances.
On offense, only the intended receiver can cause offensive pass interference.
On defense, any unengaged defensive player (not including eventual engagement with intended receiver) can cause pass interference, even if that player was engaged when the ball was placed. Any base contact within a base length or less is considered to be incidental contact and is not a penalty.

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Old 02-14-2008, 11:01 AM
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Thanks wolf for posting our written rules for Pass Simulation,


also here is what we have on youtube:
Buzzball Pass Simulation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPxgODRKD8
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:44 PM
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Hi efgamer,

Greetings to you my friend. My name is John but I am better known in the hobby as Coach J. You are new to the chatboard so let me say welcome to the MF chatboard. You have come to a good place to get your questions answered.

The previous replies I have pretty much answered your question regarding passing sticks and pass placement. I hope they will be helpful in the future. By the way I noticed that you are from Alabama. Exactly where in Alabama ? Just for your information there is annual tournament held usually in June called The Bama Blast. Hopefully you will be able to attend and meet some of the other coaches in the hobby and in your area.

Have a good day, feel free to ask any additional questions, and again welcome to the MF chatboard.

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Old 02-14-2008, 05:41 PM
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gamer pm me for info concerning passing sticks and bama blast
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:16 AM
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passing sticks or TTQB?

chess or checkers?

toy or hobby?

boiled or not boiled?

one stop or multi-stop?



I could not resist, when I saw this thread it immediately brought to mind the many debates we have had over sticks vs TTQB, then everything else came to mind also. I hope we can look back on some of that foolishness and laugh a little now.

Not to highjack the thread, I do use the sticks, especially for newer coaches who are not up to throwing an interception or incomplete pass with the TTQB every time they want to take to the air.

I love the sticks and think they are a great asset to the game. no doubt. I got mine from Buzzball, they great.
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