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Old 07-13-2008, 05:20 PM
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Default The Stack!!(counter It!!)

STOP CRYING OVER OBSTACLES! MEET THE CHALLENGE! REMEMBER FOOTBALL STARTED AS RUGGBY, AND IT EVOLVED! JUST AS THE THE PASS DID. THE OBJECT IS TO GET THE BALL IN THE ENDZONE. 1900s 20yd THE PLAY WAS YOU RUN INTO THE END ZONE I'LL TOSS THE BALL TO YA.(OUT COME) IT WORKED! ISSUE WAS! LEGAL OR ILLEGAL (OUT COME) THE REFS TOSS THE COIN!! THE REST IS HISTORY! (THE STACK IS A BLITZ!) YOU COUNTER THE BLITZ WITH THE...SCREEN!!!!!(WE HAVE BOOKS THE INTERNET FOR KNOWLEDGE) EXAMPLE:YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE BOTTLE OF BEER BEFORE U CAN CHUG!!!!!! OUT HERE IN THE W.COAST WE HAVE A TERM. THEIR COACHES AND THEIR ROACHES! ROACHES WANT SOMETHIN FOR NUTHIN.COACHES WORK FOR WHAT THEY WANT! COACH MARTY T. STOP CRYIN(no disrespect) HELL ME THE CHALLENGE! BY ALL MEANS U HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION! I RESPECT THAT,AND RINDER MY SUPPORT WITH A BOX OF KLEENEX (THE ROOSTER HAS CROWED) POST GAME MAY 2008 BILLS AT LAMBEAU 2ND QUARTER GB 8 BUF 0: BUF RAN 62yd TD. PAT. BUF GOES FOR 2 (NOTE WITH ANOTHER HALF TO PLAY) OUT COME PACKERS SAY NO! GAME OUT COME GB 8 BUF 6. NOTE COACH WINK IS IN A WHEEL CHAIR AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PASS! YOU COACH MARTY U HAVE THE OPTION TO DO BOTH! MENTALLY YOU WERE OUT COACHED( BE ADVISED I COACH AJAH OFFICIATED THAT GAME) YOU PLAYED BRAWL STYLE FOOTBALL. TO CLOSE: COACH MARTY T. MONTHS AGO U BAD MOUTHED THE LAEFL WITH OUT CONSIDERING THE STAFF AND COACHES THAT AREN'T PLAYING THIS SEASON,BUT DO SUPPORT THE LEAGUE! YESTERDAY AT THE O/R COACH TURNER STATED YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE PLAYING. THATS FINE AND DANDY,ALSO U HAVE AN INVITE TO THE TOURNY. WHAT I DON'T SEE IS A POST OF APOLOGY FOR YOUR ACCUSATIONS. I ADDRESS THIS ON BEHALF OF ALL LEAGUES AND SPORTS!( INTEGRITY) YOU'RE A GOOD COACH WE LOVE TO HAVE YA! (BUT WHEN U COME WITH ******** I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU EAT!!!(PLAY FOOTBALLLLLL)

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Old 07-13-2008, 06:22 PM
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Default The Passing Game

Coach Ajahaana,

Are you telling me that this problem developed because of the lack of passing game? In this style of play, that is usually why people want to implement rules against a stack.

I've been doing this for many years in this style of play. I saw my friend Geno Hendricks so frustrated at the Shootout one year because everyone was stacking up on him to stop the run. Geno promptly went up stairs and hopped on line and blasted the Shootout.

I could see the frustration in Geno and I had told him, if you can't pass in this style, you will be frustrated! He knew what he was getting in to but he still wanted to play. When Geno came back down stairs, Pervis "Pep" Woods, DeWone McDaniel, and I took about 30-40 minutes and basically taught Geno how to pass.

Needless to say, Geno came back down in the elimination rounds and played his heart out. Things became easy for Geno as he went on to play in the Semifinal rounds of the Shootout. He beat some great coaches along the way. After it ended, Geno pulled me to the side and apologized for writing what he did. Geno's a great competitor but he had not planned to be stopped in the running game. Once he became comfortable in the passing game, he never complained about stacking in any manner.

Today, Geno's one of the great passers in the Big 12. He practices tirelessly to compete. With his ability to run the ball and use play-action passing, he is a cinch to compete in the CBSMF playoffs. This is from a guy who wanted "crutches" put in place to help the run.

Geno was one game away from competing for the 2007 Championship this year and is one of the well-respected players in the country. But when he originally competed under the Shootout system, we knew he could not pass. So like any great defensive mind, you stack it up to stop the run. If he has game, he can still beat you in the air.

Dink and dunks are fine but can you make a 40 yard pass on a rope when it counts the most? That will be required when yall play in the CBSMF. Just my opinion.

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Old 07-13-2008, 07:18 PM
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Default T.p In Family Reunion (don't Do It!

DON'T DO IT DON'T DO IT MAKE THEM EARN IT TO CALL THEMSELVES PLAYERS!!! YOU REMEMBER TO DAYS WHEN AN OG SAW GUY WITH HIS CAR BANGED UP AND SAID(THAT WALL WOONEN MOVE HAU) (1) MAKE THE LBs WORK (2) IF A COACHES RECIEVERS CAN ONLY GO FOWARD AND SLANT(HE AINT READY. (3) COACHES ASK YOURSELVES CAN YOUR RECIEVERS RUN A SIDELINE AND UP ROUTE? (IF NOT! YOU HAVE WORK TO DO!!) MAKE THAT DEFENSE OPEN UP! REMEBER IN TRADITIONAL COMBAT(MUSKET RIFLES) THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO HOLD THE LINE,OR BE OUT FLANKED IT GOES FOR O/D. BASICLY I STACK BEHIND NT AND LET OTs RELEASE AND SLIP IN BEHIND THEM WITH LOOPERS!(THERE U GO!!!) IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE! SLIDING OTs HOW MANY COACHES KNOW HOW TO USE THEM? ( COACH RUT!! DON'T CHANGE A THING) YOUR STYLE OF PLAY IS LIKE DA TALENT OF M.JACKSON! THEY'LL NEVER BE ANOTHER! WE HAD 3 NEW COACHES AT THE OPEN RUN YESTERDAY THEY DID CART WHEELS FROM WHAT THE SEEN AND LEARNED!! ALSO IF A COACH IS NOT PUTTIN IN TIME HE WON'T EVOLVE IN THE PROPER RETROSPECT.....LYRICS OF TLC....GIRLTALK (YA GOTTA PUT IN WORK!!!
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:29 PM
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Default Coach 'em Up!

Develop your players. Learn their strengths - so they can do what they do! Then develop your system / style. That is what I did during my first season in the CNYEFL. And I will probably have to work some more this season in the BAM and in the CNY league. To me - that is what makes it fun.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:10 PM
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I CAN'T BELEIVE YOU ARE SIDING WITH BULLY BALL STACKING STYLE OF PLAY. WHEN YOU GUYS WERE PLAYING THAT STYLE VINCE BLEW EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS OUT I HEARD. YOU THINK IT'S NONSENSE BUT IT'S NOT TO ME I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHO LIKES IT AND WHO DON'T. OPEN YOUR EYES PEACE OUT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED COMPITENT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD NEXT SEASON THAT WILL MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND GOOD RULES. AGAIN TO OPEN THE GAME OF PLAY UP INSTEAD OF BUNCHIN THE GAME OF PLAY UP AND SLOWING THE PLAY PROCESS DOWN..
THIS AINT ABOUT VINCE!!!! DO U SEE HIM SUPPORTING THE LEAGUE YOU DON'T KNOW VINCE BUT U UP HIS ******!! THIS ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE! I'M A PLAYER WHAT EVER U BRING I'LL COUNTER!! HAVE U EVER PLAYED FOOTBALL HS COLLAGE? ARE R U JUST I FIGURE COACH!
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:58 PM
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KNOW your players..Players play, and Coaches Coach Bottom line. If you can accurately pass you can destroy the stack defense. No problem whatsoever. If you cannot pass you will have a problem against the stack point period end of story. My suggestion, learn how to pass!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:21 PM
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Default Marty-

Here is what I am talking about. Coaching and Tweaking.

The league I joined this year allows stacking. I had never played that style before. Initially - I tried counter stacking on offense. It didn't work as well for me. So I developed the strength of my bases - worked better bases for the linemen. Then I worked with my WR's and RB's to develop certain skills and characteristics - which then led to an offensive scheme. Last game of the season I beat a perennial champ who had beaten me by 3 TD's earlier in the season. Took time - and will take more.

That is what I enjoy - working the players and developing a style of play - a system that has lots of possibilities and options to work with.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:44 PM
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Coach Ajahaana,

Are you telling me that this problem developed because of the lack of passing game? In this style of play, that is usually why people want to implement rules against a stack.

I've been doing this for many years in this style of play. I saw my friend Geno Hendricks so frustrated at the Shootout one year because everyone was stacking up on him to stop the run. Geno promptly went up stairs and hopped on line and blasted the Shootout.

I could see the frustration in Geno and I had told him, if you can't pass in this style, you will be frustrated! He knew what he was getting in to but he still wanted to play. When Geno came back down stairs, Pervis "Pep" Woods, DeWone McDaniel, and I took about 30-40 minutes and basically taught Geno how to pass.

Needless to say, Geno came back down in the elimination rounds and played his heart out. Things became easy for Geno as he went on to play in the Semifinal rounds of the Shootout. He beat some great coaches along the way. After it ended, Geno pulled me to the side and apologized for writing what he did. Geno's a great competitor but he had not planned to be stopped in the running game. Once he became comfortable in the passing game, he never complained about stacking in any manner.

Today, Geno's one of the great passers in the Big 12. He practices tirelessly to compete. With his ability to run the ball and use play-action passing, he is a cinch to compete in the CBSMF playoffs. This is from a guy who wanted "crutches" put in place to help the run.

Geno was one game away from competing for the 2007 Championship this year and is one of the well-respected players in the country. But when he originally competed under the Shootout system, we knew he could not pass. So like any great defensive mind, you stack it up to stop the run. If he has game, he can still beat you in the air.

Dink and dunks are fine but can you make a 40 yard pass on a rope when it counts the most? That will be required when yall play in the CBSMF. Just my opinion.

Reg


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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

#1 Here is a copy and paste of what I posted on Miggle about my frustrations in 2006 TSO

I will tell you all that this style of play is well.......frustrating for a newbie I am sweating and feel VERY.........rushed......I am having a hard time adjusting.Prelimanary rounds are about a third over and I am setting at 0-4.I have had almost everyone tell me that I have the strongest bases here BUT........there is alot for me to learn about these rules and style of play before I can start to be competitive. Listen to me when Reggie tells you that it is different playing the Texas Shootout rules he means IT IS DIFFERENT.The preliminary rounds only set the bracket for the tournament.So I hope I can learn more in these upcoming games.And then appy it in the Tournament.

more info coming later.

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#2 You, PEP, and Dewoyne only told me the importance of a Pass game.
I taught myself AFTER that tournament through hours of practice.

#3 You and I talked and YOU thought the post was negative I did not think it was negative only TRUTHFULL.


#4. As for the rest of the post...thanks for the compliments.

#5. Lets keep it real.

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Old 07-14-2008, 12:18 AM
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REG HIT ME UP! WE HAD SOME GOOD RESPONSES THOUGH. IT WAS GOOD TO LISTEN. I'm Done.
PEACE OUT WITH NO DISRESPECT! LAST POST, IT WAS FUN SEEING ALL THE INPUT IT'S A CLOSED CASE!
YOU'RE SUPERFICIAL!! YOU SHOULD PLAY SOLITARE CAUSE U GOT ISSUES
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:26 AM
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KNOW your players..Players play, and Coaches Coach Bottom line. If you can accurately pass you can destroy the stack defense. No problem whatsoever. If you cannot pass you will have a problem against the stack point period end of story. My suggestion, learn how to pass!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE'S ONE OF OURS COACH HE'LL PAY FULL PRICE FOR A FIVE PAK! HE'S GOING TO COACHING SCHOOL!
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