Mondays: Question of The Day: Integrity in Electric Football

[mantaraydre]

Integrtiy,

levell shelton told me at the miggle in baltimore, "Integrity and character is what you do when no one is looking "

When your not 100% in agreement WITH SOME COACHES all the time. They will figure out a way to view you as an outcast instead of and honest person who chooses to think for themselves. Trust me, THE CELL PHONE CLICKS STILL EXIST. Im not a phone person and never was. If i contact a coach it is strictly business in regards to decals or services. more coming.
I did talk to some coaches in the past via phone outside of business and they all have turned out to have done something. a coach can be deemed not a team player via the cell phone gang. I WILL ADMITT, i did a taste test several times to prove a point to myself. I HAVE PUT UP SOME CONTROVERSIAL POST PURPOSELY TO SEE A PATTERN.

Before this phony post i look to see who is online at the bottom of our page. I see it is not many. Then i put up the phony post. 2 minutes later it is always the same cast of characters who miraculously appear on line all at the same time. That is the cell phones working overtime. Ring, ' you see what dre posted ". I noticed this at least 10 times. Then the replies comes, well this well that.

This is why trust comes to visit me very seldom. I was taught to always watch everybody. A wise man told me to never take with both hands and expect nothing.

I learned to totally appreciate the good ones in the hobby . There are some great ones in our world. The great chris stacey is at the top of the list.
To me, ken allen is like THE GREAT AL SHARPTON. Because he will tell you like it is and do what he can to solve problems objectively.

mantaraydre

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by mantaraydre

Integrtiy,

levell shelton told me at the miggle in baltimore, "Integrity and character is what you do when no one is looking "

When your not 100% in agreement WITH SOME COACHES all the time. They will figure out a way to view you as an outcast instead of and honest person who chooses to think for themselves. Trust me, THE CELL PHONE CLICKS STILL EXIST. Im not a phone person and never was. If i contact a coach it is strictly business in regards to decals or services. more coming.
I did talk to some coaches in the past via phone outside of business and they all have turned out to have done something. a coach can be deemed not a team player via the cell phone gang. I WILL ADMITT, i did a taste test several times to prove a point to myself. I HAVE PUT UP SOME CONTROVERSIAL POST PURPOSELY TO SEE A PATTERN.

Before this phony post i look to see who is online at the bottom of our page. I see it is not many. Then i put up the phony post. 2 minutes later it is always the same cast of characters who miraculously appear on line all at the same time. That is the cell phones working overtime. Ring, ' you see what dre posted ". I noticed this at least 10 times. Then the replies comes, well this well that.

This is why trust comes to visit me very seldom. I was taught to always watch everybody. A wise man told me to never take with both hands and expect nothing.

I learned to totally appreciate the good ones in the hobby . There are some great ones in our world. The great chris stacey is at the top of the list.
To me, ken allen is like THE GREAT AL SHARPTON. Because he will tell you like it is and do what he can to solve problems objectively.

mantaraydre

Some have taken this too personal and for the record this post was the result of a coversation regarding business dealings, not competitive play. Some to the league rhetoric was to NOT point fingers at anyone. Then you read some of this, where it comes from, and there it is.

I have played for 42 years and have seen or been a part of many situations. I started playing with Alan and Tony Jones in a three man league and replayed games because I loved to play so much in the 70's. I still love them brothers like brothers no matter what fate life has taken them through. Even today, if someone said something happened to anyone from the GL I will be there. But those who don't know is directly attributable to those second hand gossipers, just like you said, who ride the phones and PM's. I see that as well my friend.

Just you do me a favor. Don't let the naysayers quell your enthusiasm. Don't look past your post. I have been guilty myself of cracking a joke or two at your expense but I'm just a silly dude acting alone. We need your hype.

[49ers_Fan]

You no guys this is funny in a sense, some of the some folks you guys highly recommend has some of the same Characteristic has some of the people who may have integrity issues. They haven't done it to you; I think communication is a key when doing business with people. Example I owe Mike Robertson some bases from a couple of months ago. But I had to explain to him my health was bad and was not able to get them to him. And I’ll get them to him ASAP. But guys Like this dude i will not mention, who takes people money and say the heck with everybody. That’s when you should call people out.


Just my 2 cents

Dearell

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by 49ers_Fan

You no guys this is funny in a sense, some of the some folks you guys highly recommend has some of the same Characteristic has some of the people who may have integrity issues. They haven't done it to you; I think communication is a key when doing business with people. Example I owe Mike Robertson some bases from a couple of months ago. But I had to explain to him my health was bad and was not able to get them to him. And I’ll get them to him ASAP. But guys Like who takes people money and say the heck with everybody. That’s when you should call people out.


Just my 2 cents

Dearell

I say honor your word. Things happen and that's when communication is necessary. If Chris or Mike or many others told me, I got behind, da, da, da, it would never be a problem. I know these guys. I researched and trusted my gut instincts.

When communication breaks down, and times goes by and that phone don't ring?, then you know you have a problem. Late is way different than never.

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by sweetka

I say honor your word. Things happen and that's when communication is necessary. If Chris or Mike or many others told me, I got behind, da, da, da, it would never be a problem. I know these guys. I researched and trusted my gut instincts.

When communication breaks down, and times goes by and that phone don't ring?, then you know you have a problem. Late is way different than never.

this is where you come to the point of making the call... Blast or keep trying

depending on who it is, whether or not they get a "pass"...........

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by Coach K-LO

this is where you come to the point of making the call... Blast or keep trying

depending on who it is, whether or not they get a "pass"...........

They would have lost me when they stated they will get to it when they can.

Didn't they give you a deadline initially. Months, then years go by and you are still calling them? What's the time frame before you say, act or move on.

In this hobby you have to move on because most of these things happen across state lines or in places where unruliness could cost you your job or career.

I did buy customs from a local yocal, and by the time I got home to stand them up they looked like the scarecrow after being attacked by flying monkeys in the "Wizard Of Oz".

I went right back to his house and sat there while he fixed every single one of them. After that, I was done because that is not how I would do people.

I wish I could have back many of the bases I have tweaked for others. You mentioned that you give great product only to see less in return. On that note you should watch for and seek those who do the same. They are there you know. Don't settle. Competition weeds out the bad seeds as well IMHO.

[mozeek]

DON'T TAKE MY MONEY IF YOU CAN'T PROVIDE A QUALITY PRODUCT.......WHEN YOU ARE A SELLER IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THE TRANSACTION RIGHT....IF AFTER YOU TAKE SOMEONE'S HARD EARNED MONEY AND YOU SEND ME A LESS THAN STELLAR PRODUCT AND THEN WHEN I COMPLAIN AND YOU TELL ME THAT YOU WILL SEND ME MY MONEY BACK AND TO THROW AWAY THE PRODUCT ...THEN WHY WOULD YOU CHARGE ME FOR SOMETHING YOU ARE WILLING TO THROW AWAY????????

MANTA RAY DRE....THE CELL PHONE CLIQUE HAS DIED DOWN A BIT.....BUT YOU ARE SO CORRECT......

YOU BURN ME ONCE YOU WILL NEVER SEE MY MONEY AGAIN AND I WILL TELL OTHERS OF YOUR POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE PRACTICES.....FELLAS THERE ARE PLENTY OF CONSUMERS ON HERE WHO HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM THIS HOBBY BECAUSE OF THE GUYS WHO DO "BAD BUSINESS"

MY PARTING STATEMENT IS...... WHY SHOULD WE FORGIVE WHEN NO APOLOGY HAS BEEN OFFERED ......NOT TO ME BUT TO THE ONE'S THAT YOU HAVE OFFENDED .... OBVIOUSLY MANY HAVE BEEN OFFENDED .......

[Tomkat]

Get rid of the self-promoters. We need to uplift others, not spend our time putting ourselves on a pedestal.