Pros and Cons to FOB tackling?

I agree with Wolf...I like the concept, but I think if you use this style in big tourneys, you would have to slow the board a bit, or let the defense stop the board as needed to see if a tackle has been made...otherwise the arguments begin! ("He got him" No he didn't" etc.)

Matt

[jeff]

Defense gets to run the board if it is a running play, and offense gets to run the board if it is anything else.

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by Miltron

I agree with Wolf...I like the concept, but I think if you use this style in big tourneys, you would have to slow the board a bit, or let the defense stop the board as needed to see if a tackle has been made...otherwise the arguments begin! ("He got him" No he didn't" etc.)

Matt

this happens in AT also......

The thing about MF in general - each one call the game the same on both sides of the ball....if you want a broken tackle, you have to be willing to concede a broken tackle, etc...

Board speed can improve game play or cause more of the "scrum" because it's to slow. Some coaches try to use it as an advantage (slow speed) but all-in-all FOB is fun.

[Anthony D Burgess]

With FOB there needes to be balance. Each side wants this and that. Simply give them the same thing and how they use it makes the difference.

When the board stops, both sides have the same opportunity. This eliminates arguments. Offense goes first, then the defense goes 2ND. Move and counter move.

Like links in a chain, you have Stoppages+FOB+Timed adjustments+Pay and Game clock+Enforcment of football rules+Realism+Understanding of actual football plays and fuctions= A balance and playable game play for current and future coaches.

Now use off props+focus on props+other none football related issues= Unbalanced and a difficult game play for current and future coaches.

With each link supporting the next it eliminates the issues such as, " It hit him vs It did not, is it a tackle or not, etc."

I like to think of it like this, a coutship between actual football and playability leads to a marriages that reflects all that football is . The offspring is fairness, balance, realism.

Some times what we like is what is hurting the game. Some times we think it sounds good but ?????? That is the issue, Speculation !!!!

Give things an honest try and leave the speculation at the door.

So FOB needs to have a support system around it for it to be really effective and balanced. With out this your just opening the door to more issues that we really don't need.

Originally Posted by Miltron

I agree with Wolf...I like the concept, but I think if you use this style in big tourneys, you would have to slow the board a bit, or let the defense stop the board as needed to see if a tackle has been made...otherwise the arguments begin! ("He got him" No he didn't" etc.)

Matt

I like to play that you can tackle from the front or the side but not from the rear. That mean you have shoe string tackles but not tackling with your butt. Seems you still have more offense, but fills the lanes up a little better.

[NEW CASTLE HiTMEN]

Great replies. The reason I asked this question is I am losing my nephews interest in the game. They want more scoring. We started playing a multi-stop rules but now I am coming up with defenses that king of prevents them from scoring on every down. They both play organized football so they know that scoring on every drive is almost unheard of. But they reply that MF is just a game. I told them not for me it's a hobby. So,they wanted to play that an engaged defender can't make a tackle. I told them it would be TOO lopsided for the offense. Then I suggested front of base tackling. I guess we are going to have to experiment. Keep the responses coming.

[Anthony D Burgess]

Well this multi stop ( MPFL ) Is just what the doctor ordered.

With FOB tackling this makes the game play like just what thay see and play. Children have a way of seeing the right and truth in things that most adults don't want to see and get upset when someone points it out to them.

Now Multi stop is not an accurate name, it suggest that there is no limit to the number of times the board is stopped.

One must understand the reason WHY you stop the board, and that is to react for the players, pass, or hand the ball off. There is a time limit of 20 seconds to get it done.

The board stops at a pre determined time, 1 second, 1.3, or .7, .8 etc . There is a limit to the number of times the board is stopped. There is a traid off from controling the board to controling your players.This brings balance and fairness to both sides.

Originally Posted by NEW CASTLE HiTMEN

Great replies. The reason I asked this question is I am losing my nephews interest in the game. They want more scoring. We started playing a multi-stop rules but now I am coming up with defenses that king of prevents them from scoring on every down. They both play organized football so they know that scoring on every drive is almost unheard of. But they reply that MF is just a game. I told them not for me it's a hobby. So,they wanted to play that an engaged defender can't make a tackle. I told them it would be TOO lopsided for the offense. Then I suggested front of base tackling. I guess we are going to have to experiment. Keep the responses coming.

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by NEW CASTLE HiTMEN

Great replies. The reason I asked this question is I am losing my nephews interest in the game. They want more scoring. We started playing a multi-stop rules but now I am coming up with defenses that king of prevents them from scoring on every down. They both play organized football so they know that scoring on every drive is almost unheard of. But they reply that MF is just a game. I told them not for me it's a hobby. So,they wanted to play that an engaged defender can't make a tackle. I told them it would be TOO lopsided for the offense. Then I suggested front of base tackling. I guess we are going to have to experiment. Keep the responses coming.

If you allowed this to happen, there would be very little tackles made in a game......

[NEW CASTLE HiTMEN]

AB,
I only stop the board once maybe twice during a play. My nephews stop it numerouse times. I tweak all the bases so what they want a player to do may not be what that base is tweaked for.

K-LO,
There is alot of scoring when we play but thats the only way to keep them interested. It's like eleven man Arena Football.

[WEIRDWOLF]

Scoring is what keeps young kids involved. Eventually they will grab on to the complexities of the game as they tire of scoring on every play and desire a more competitive challenge. My 4 year old plays with me and sometimes its my 11 against 24. Talk about a challenge! Try running on that. But the key is he is having fun and I can still test my skill following the basic rules to see if i can get through his stack, blitz, cover 2, zone, man on man defense. LOL

One thing I learned from the Texas Shootout rules that would help in FOB is that the defense controls the switch on any run play and if you don't switch it off on time it's just too darn bad. It worked extremely well and there were more then a few times that I unintentionally let the RB get an extra few yards because I didn't hit the switch.